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Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

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jdhu said:
Also likely splitting hairs, but "I don't see race" must mean "race does not matter to me" (unless the person is literally color blind). Now, does this mean the person treats all the same regardless of race, or does this person mean he/she believes race is no longer an issue?

I'm happy to say, with honesty, that while I obviously see and notice race, it does not matter in the slightest as far as how I treat the person. I find, more and more, that the reverse seems true (people don't treat me as an Asian, but as a human).
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Good post J and agree with all of it. Growing up, I didn't see race as a difference with my cousins until someone pointed out race and made me understand why it should matter they were different. I was around 12 at the time and even then, it did not and does not matter. People make shitty comments about others having no clue what each other's racial experiences, connections, nor feelings are. It can be a heavy cudgel all around.

What I found most interesting is how we all communicate (or used to, rather) on all kinds of subjects without knowing what sex, nor race, nor age, each other are. The purity of race-less relationships are on full display on the internet with the cloak of anonymity.
 
I hear the phrase "I don't see color" as someone trying to be virtuous and I think it discounts POC's experience of racism. We all see color, mannerisms, patterns of speech and many other things that we don't consciously realize in the moment.
It's cute that the more conservative individuals like to say that we should see no color while denying the impact of racism and it's on going legacy in the world and pushing back on affirmative action as racist.

I'll go with: I'll take each individual as I find them and make judgements about them based on my interactions with them.

Can't judge a book by it's cover, may have to read a few chapters first.
 
tuxumino said:
I hear the phrase "I don't see color" as someone trying to be virtuous and I think it discounts POC's experience of racism. We all see color, mannerisms, patterns of speech and many other things that we don't consciously realize in the moment.
It's cute that the more conservative individuals like to say that we should see no color while denying the impact of racism and it's on going legacy in the world and pushing back on affirmative action as racist.

I'll go with: I'll take each individual as I find them and make judgements about them based on my interactions with them.

Can't judge a book by it's cover, may have to read a few chapters first.
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:thumbup
 
Mike95060 said:
As is gender. :thumbup
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Very much incorrect. Gender is biological. Penises, vaginas, sperm, eggs, ovaries, etc. These are very real differences. I have a penis and I lack a uterus. That makes me a male.

Eldritch said:
Not really. They are from the PI, like 90% the restaurants are in the PI. I think they started in Quezon?
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I understand they're from PI. But I still maintaining it is a PI version of American fast food.
 
bojangle said:
Very much incorrect. Gender is biological. Penises, vaginas, sperm, eggs, ovaries, etc. These are very real differences. I have a penis and I lack a uterus. That makes me a male.


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Pics or it never happened. :nchantr
 
bojangle said:
Very much incorrect. Gender is biological. Penises, vaginas, sperm, eggs, ovaries, etc. These are very real differences. I have a penis and I lack a uterus. That makes me a male.
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Gender is a social construct. But depending on context it's colloquially used and is interchangeable with sex.
Sex is biological.
 
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afm199 said:
Pics or it never happened. :nchantr
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Incoming! :mag 📲

Karbon said:
Gender is a social construct. But depending on context it's colloquially used and is interchangeable with sex.
Sex is biological.
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So we should call them sex reveal parties. :laughing I like the sound of that.

I think that's splitting hairs since the words are used interchangeably. Gender identity...I'll give you that one, I guess. But, other than rare exceptions, people are born with either boy or girl parts. That's biology. Race is not biology.
 
bojangle said:
Incoming! :mag ��



So we should call them sex reveal parties. :laughing I like the sound of that.

I think that's splitting hairs since the words are used interchangeably. Gender identity...I'll give you that one, I guess. But, other than rare exceptions, people are born with either boy or girl parts. That's biology. Race is not biology.
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Yeah "sex reveal parties" would be the accurate term. It wouldn't be far fetched to have gender neutral sex reveal parties. It would be interesting if the zeitgeist went that way.

yes the concept of race is a socially constructed one.

What we know culturally as race is best described in biology as a cline. Geography is a factor. It's not surprising that people who live near the equator, which gets most intense sunlight, have more melanin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cline_(biology)
 
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SVsick50 said:
It’s pretty sad you’re not looking at real life. Because the reality is, is that I-don’t-see-race comes from a place of love, and not hate.

Your view of race relations is sad, pathetic and false. I didn’t marry my wife as a “survival strategy” - I married her because I love her. Something it seems you don’t understand, or experienced. Love transcends the bullshit you so eloquently put.
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Yours was the most egregiously ridiculous comment among many, so sit with this.

I didn’t comment on “race relations” at all, only race reality. It’s not “pathetic” to acknowledge one’s own inherent bias and unearned privilege. I recall directly stating that. And lumping in another wealthy poster with a dubious grasp of the cost of a gallon of milk. Barf is unreal. There are literal 1%ers here.

The survival strategy I mentioned had nothing directly or indirectly to do with you or your wife, stop projecting and lashing out. It describes the experience of all POC all the time navigating the quite real and well noted institutional bias, overt racism, and vitriolic hate that is flying off the front page right now.

Glad you married for the right reasons, feel secure in your identity, and empowered to put me in my place. I’m chastened, enlightened, and humbled by your acumen. Carry on.
 
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bojangle said:
Very much incorrect. Gender is biological. Penises, vaginas, sperm, eggs, ovaries, etc. These are very real differences. I have a penis and I lack a uterus. That makes me a male.



I understand they're from PI. But I still maintaining it is a PI version of American fast food.
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I mean, that is like saying that McDonald's is not American food.

Is it representative of a great burger or a pinnacle of our cuisine? No. However it comes from here and is certainly prevalent enough to be a part of the cultural experience here.

:dunno

nakedape said:
The survival strategy I mentioned had nothing directly or indirectly to do with you or your wife, stop projecting and lashing out. It describes the experience of all POC all the time navigating the quite real and well noted institutional bias, overt racism, and vitriolic hate that is flying off the front page right now.
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Dude, he posted a lot of bleedingly real personal experience and dumped out his personal life online for the benefit of the group in his posts and you came in a couple of posts later and in essence called him a, "Race Traitor." A little lashing out seems legit AF in response.

Everything you are posting is jargon from the New Segregationist agenda and it is harmful. It is people who speak this way that call people names like, "Uncle Tom." It is a shameful behavior and I believe you should reconsider your perspective.
 
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Eldritch said:
Everything you are posting is jargon from the New Segregationist agenda and it is harmful. It is people who speak this way that call people names like, "Uncle Tom." It is a shameful behavior and I believe you should reconsider your perspective.
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I thought it was plagiarized from some sort of manifesto...
 
What a bunch of cowards those by standers are.
 
Holeshot said:
What a bunch of cowards those by standers are.
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Yes and no. It is a damn shame, but people often just don't want to be involved. The shock of violence is paralyzing for a lot of folks too. Seems like Bruv was getting the worst of it by far, but he was swinging for sure, not intending to go down easy when it started.

That is why I wonder if there was an exchange of words for a minute first.
 
Holeshot said:
What a bunch of cowards those by standers are.
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Please don't tell me you're surprised.

Considering the level of violence that they're all witnessing, the average person wouldn't be prepared to intervene and overcome.
 
insyder said:
Please don't tell me you're surprised.

Considering the level of violence that they're all witnessing, the average person wouldn't be prepared to intervene and overcome.
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If only they could invent shooting iPhones. People are really good at "bearing" those. Maybe if people could shoot via the screen they'd actually do something.

Because that attacker deserved the death penalty on the spot. The way he's choking that guy, I'm surprised he didn't pass out.
 
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insyder said:
Please don't tell me you're surprised.

Considering the level of violence that they're all witnessing, the average person wouldn't be prepared to intervene and overcome.
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True, and we're all told: Be a good witness. The sad part there is the lack of consequences even if they catch the perpetrator. We need ebola defense spray.
 
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