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Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

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Asian Woman Punched In The Face and Robbed on BART

https://www.asian-dawn.com/2021/05/19/asian-woman-punched-in-the-face-and-robbed-on-bart/

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Are you fucking serious with that idiotic website?

Folks, I'm pretty convinced this one ain't Corb. At least he had standards in media he shared. And by sharing media, I mean he'd yell at you to watch 6 hours of Jordy Petey lectures before he would acknowledge your opinion.
 
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Let's get some heroes posted in this thread. Shame 'ol Sterling had to make him sound like a criminal too.

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That's a whole lot of words to get around saying that the term white supremacy makes you uncomfortable.

I said no such thing, I made an impartial observation of operating systems in the United States and the history of those systems that has led us to the current malfunction that requires a patch.

You seem unable to process that none of this is personal. Individual humans and individual experiences are meaningless outside of the perspective of that individual. Investing in something like discomfort is a waste of valuable resources.

Humans are just a resource. What matters is how the systems that mange that resource functions. I have observed the development of this system failure to current, diagnosed the point of failure, and proposed a solution to make the Human managing system function more effectively.

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Are you Class Reductionist?

What in your opinion why is it that blacks and other poc in America experience a disproportionate level of poverty?

And while I generally agree a wider economic parity of people is a key component in building a better society, I'm not sure I would agreed on what you consider "mostly disappear". I think CRT academics helps shed light on that.

No, not at all, I mean, I certainly do not think I am, but certainly I am open to examining that if you think it merits more discussion.

For starters that I would have to point out that this BIPOC poverty is not a universal trait. Everyone's favorite :rolleyes Stat in these conversations is that Asians in America have a typically higher level of education and higher annual earnings than census defined White Americans. Case in point against, "White Supremacy." The popular ethnic groups to point out when discussing minorty poverty is the Latino and Black Communities.

The black community I already addressed. During the White Supremacist American model, the black community was unfairly brutalized into poverty en masse. It remains largely impoverished, due to the deterioration of upward class mobility in America. Our broken system makes sure the poor stay poor now. It is a problem all Americans are struggling with. Disproportionately high percentages of the Black Community were impoverished when this trend started in the 1970's and has only gotten worse, so of course that community is disproportionately impacted by a system that perpetuates poverty at every level. What is worse, socioeconomic studies are showing that concentrated poverty tends to perpetuate itself, even without system flaws, so it is a double whammy for the community.

For the Latino Community, it is a different and much more complicated legacy, but the root problem of a lack of opportunity and upward mobility for the Poors is the same. You have to remember, in the early 1960's Latinos were seriously only like 3% of the American Population. There has been an unprecedented mass migration to the US from Latin America in the last 50 years, but it has all been during a period of fiat currency, wage stagnation, and the war on the poor (Prison Industrial Complex, etc.), so it makes sense that by and large that community has experienced a lot of challenges in upward mobility since it mostly arrived in the U.S. a mere 2 generations ago.
 
If you truly want to get to the root of systemic poverty you would also need to change our culture from the current blingy consumerism that it is now.

Part of the reason some people stay poor and have no generational wealth is their collective inability to save and grow their wealth.

I see it here a lot in the swamps. People get a little money and the first thing they do is run out and buy the latest kicks and trendy designer clothes instead of saving that money. You would be surprised by the number of people here who are on Section 8 housing but have the latest clothes, gold chains/watches, and drive late-model cars with 28" rims. If you are too busy spending it you aren't making it work for you which is worse than not having it in the first place. Until we quite glorifying the Have's and trying to match their lifestyles then people will not be able to drag themselves out of poverty no matter how much help you give them.
 
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Put a couple thousand in the bank and watch your benefits dry up because if you have money in savings you don't need help.
 
The enormous display of home fireworks last summer was a prime example of people spending free/easy money on stupid shit.

Yeah, it's complicated, so many poor decisions being made with poor rationalizations, but there is also reasons for those kinds of decisions and rationalizations, some of which aren't readily apparent unless you're closely interfaced with the community.
 
And yet I was proven correct.



I see a discrepancy between the image you like to project of yourself on here and reality. I don't think you want genuine conversation. People interested in genuine conversation discuss the topic at hand not try their best to destroy the credibility of those that disagree with him.

What-the-fuck ever. I have genuine conversations on topics such as this and others all the time. You've got the wool pulled over your eyes and head in the sand so I'm not bothering.

Your disapproval of me means squat. You've been around here for like 5 minutes.
 
Lots happened here in the past couple days. :laughing I'd been sick and didn't touch my computer for anything non-work related.

Some good posts still happening though.
 
If you truly want to get to the root of systemic poverty you would also need to change our culture from the current blingy consumerism that it is now.

Part of the reason some people stay poor and have no generational wealth is their collective inability to save and grow their wealth.

I see it here a lot in the swamps. People get a little money and the first thing they do is run out and buy the latest kicks and trendy designer clothes instead of saving that money. You would be surprised by the number of people here who are on Section 8 housing but have the latest clothes, gold chains/watches, and drive late-model cars with 28" rims. If you are too busy spending it you aren't making it work for you which is worse than not having it in the first place. Until we quite glorifying the Have's and trying to match their lifestyles then people will not be able to drag themselves out of poverty no matter how much help you give them.


Well if they did anything else they'd likely be; "Uncle T*m's" to use a term brought to the discussion by other posters.
Asians seem to be successful, but their detractors say it's due to their; "Proximity to Whiteness". The characteristics of which are enumerated on this chart.

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What-the-fuck ever. I have genuine conversations on topics such as this and others all the time. You've got the wool pulled over your eyes and head in the sand so I'm not bothering.

Your disapproval of me means squat. You've been around here for like 5 minutes.

You have "genuine conversations" only with people that agree with you. You attack and insult everyone else.
 
If you truly want to get to the root of systemic poverty you would also need to change our culture from the current blingy consumerism that it is now.

Part of the reason some people stay poor and have no generational wealth is their collective inability to save and grow their wealth.

I see it here a lot in the swamps. People get a little money and the first thing they do is run out and buy the latest kicks and trendy designer clothes instead of saving that money. You would be surprised by the number of people here who are on Section 8 housing but have the latest clothes, gold chains/watches, and drive late-model cars with 28" rims. If you are too busy spending it you aren't making it work for you which is worse than not having it in the first place. Until we quite glorifying the Have's and trying to match their lifestyles then people will not be able to drag themselves out of poverty no matter how much help you give them.

I understand the perception you are describing and we do need to have some broad based cultural change in America around fiscal responsibility, but the "Gold Clad Welfare Queen," you are describing is more of a problematic stereotype than a true burden on our economic systems.

That culture change is related to the nature of self perpetuating poverty. One of the best studies I read on it had to do with the bounce back of white former plantation owners in the South after the Civil War.

Their wealth and their region of living had been utterly destroyed. Their economy gutted and the model made outlaw. It was one of the most drastic destructions of wealth in the history of the United States. Yet, within a single generation, a really significant % of those former wealthy oligarchs had reclaimed their power status. How did it happen?

This was done through a combination of the good habits of wealthy people about money (knowledge about saving, loans, investment, etc.) and also the use of networks already in place amongst the privileged (wealthy) community to obtain opportunities ahead of other competitors for the same opportunities.

This model of economic resiliency created by networking shows exactly WHY the decades old dialogue attempting to segregate the Black Community from, "the man," is in fact a toxic practice that isolates that same community in the poverty forced upon them under previous systems.

You have "genuine conversations" only with people that agree with you. You attack and insult everyone else.

Nah, Bruh. Me and 'Saki don't always see eye to eye on issues, but our dialogue has always remained respectful and sincere, because we intend to have that type of conversation with people. If you come in spikey, you can't expect people won't spike back at you though.

People looking for a fight usually find one.
 
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Asians seem to be successful, but their detractors say it's due to their; "Proximity to Whiteness".

PBSNewshour had a story related to that that last night.

In almost every corner of the planet, there's a huge social dividend that comes from being lighter-skinned.

Sociologists trace it back centuries to European colonization, slavery and class or caste.

Studies show people with lighter complexions earn more, are less likely to be arrested and, if convicted, serve shorter sentences than people with darker skin.

Whiteness is the global beauty standard.

It is reinforced in marketing by the multibillion-dollar business of skin lightening products, hundreds of obscure brands, and some very well-known ones as well.

Fair & Lovely is one of the most recognizable brands across South Asia and parts of Africa. It's made by Unilever, better known in America for Dove, Caress and dozens of other household products.

Minneapolis dermatologist Dr. Margareth Pierre-Louis says some creams don't work as advertised. Others have varying degrees of toxicity.

The most dangerous, and very popular, she adds, are steroid-based cream.

They have permanent disfiguration to the face.

There is now very white patches on the cheeks, and there's broken blood vessels and a thinning of the skin that gives these women horrible photosensitivity, meaning they can't tolerate the sun at all.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/h...es?utm_medium=event&utm_source=playlist__link

They have created a booming global business in bleach creams and injectables valued at US$8.6 billion in 2020; $2.3 billion was spent in the U.S. alone.

The market is projected to reach $12.3 billion by 2027.

https://theconversation.com/women-o...esult, many women,reach $12.3 billion by 2027.
 
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You have "genuine conversations" only with people that agree with you. You attack and insult everyone else.

How would you know? You've barely been around here.

I disagree with people all the time without issue. Again, your disapproval means squat to me.
 
Yet, within a single generation, a really significant % of those former wealthy oligarchs had reclaimed their power status. How did it happen?

This was done through a combination of the good habits of wealthy people about money (knowledge about saving, loans, investment, etc.) and also the use of networks already in place amongst the privileged (wealthy) community to obtain opportunities ahead of other competitors for the same opportunities.

Really?

Tons of stories of how former slaves ended up working for their former owners.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanex...n-sharecropping-and-changes-southern-economy/

This was a new one for me though.

The South’s new racial caste system was not merely political and social. It was thoroughly economic. Slavery had made the South’s agriculture-based economy the most powerful force in the global cotton market, but the Civil War devastated this economy.

How to build a new one?

Ironically, white leaders found a solution in the 13th Amendment, which ended slavery in the United States in 1865. By exploiting the provision allowing “slavery” and “involuntary servitude” to continue as “a punishment for crime,” they took advantage of a penal system predating the Civil War and used even during Reconstruction.

With the help of profiteering industrialists they found yet a new way to build wealth on the bound labor of black Americans: the convict lease system.

Here’s how it worked. Black men – and sometimes women and children – were arrested and convicted for crimes enumerated in the Black Codes, state laws criminalizing petty offenses and aimed at keeping freed people tied to their former owners’ plantations and farms. The most sinister crime was vagrancy – the “crime” of being unemployed – which brought a large fine that few blacks could afford to pay.

Black convicts were leased to private companies, typically industries profiteering from the region’s untapped natural resources. As many as 200,000 black Americans were forced into back-breaking labor in coal mines, turpentine factories and lumber camps. They lived in squalid conditions, chained, starved, beaten, flogged and sexually violated. They died by the thousands from injury, disease and torture.

For both the state and private corporations, the opportunities for profit were enormous. For the state, convict lease generated revenue and provided a powerful tool to subjugate African-Americans and intimidate them into behaving in accordance with the new social order. It also greatly reduced state expenses in housing and caring for convicts. For the corporations, convict lease provided droves of cheap, disposable laborers who could be worked to the extremes of human cruelty.

The exploitation of black convict labor by the penal system and industrialists was central to southern politics and economics of the era. It was a carefully crafted answer to black progress during Reconstruction – highly visible and widely known. The system benefited the national economy, too. The federal government passed up one opportunity after another to intervene.

https://theconversation.com/exploiting-black-labor-after-the-abolition-of-slavery-72482
 
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