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CHP Causing a Motorcycle Accident
- Thread starter ElDiablo
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gixxerjoeca
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LongGoneJohn
Gone
That's Skaggs!!!
And the CHP was probably calling in the crash.
And the CHP was probably calling in the crash.
Well like I said, you don't know the whole story
Fact-The person who went down, DID NOT POST THE VIDEO ON YOUTUBE
Fact-The person who recorded the video, DID NOT POST THE VIDEO ON YOUTUBE
Fact-The innocent other rider who was taken out AND injured in the process-DID NOT POST THE VIDEO ON YOUTUBE
Some unknown 4th party posted it on youtube and added the caption without the parties involved knowledge.
But carry on with the hate
arty
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I'd like to give the stoppie a "three"...
If that was Skaggs, why was the videotape slowed down?
If that was Skaggs, why was the videotape slowed down?
Shaggy
Zoinks!!!!
Because they didn't put the "RIDING PERFORMED ON CLOSED COURSE" disclaimer at the beginning of the video...
masameet
Rawr!
I don't get it. The LEO thread regarding this incident was deleted and then temporarily resurrected with the video by silversvs on request by the OP of that thread. And then deleted again, presumably on the thread OP's request. And yet the video is now on YouTube?
Didn't re-watch the YouTube video. As I recall from viewing it the first time, it was fairly obvious that the riders were in error. So why is the video on YouTube? To show other riders that panicking is bad? Or that indecision and poor judgment lead to mistakes? Well, okay.
Didn't re-watch the YouTube video. As I recall from viewing it the first time, it was fairly obvious that the riders were in error. So why is the video on YouTube? To show other riders that panicking is bad? Or that indecision and poor judgment lead to mistakes? Well, okay.
LongGoneJohn
Gone
To me it looks like they slowed down after they saw the CHIPPIE on the side of the road.
But yeah that is, without a doubt, 100%, skaggs springs road. I've ridden it a thousand times...
Whatever the case, it's a funny ass video.
egrep
Serious Business
Fact - The event was filmed.
Fact - The video was posted.
Fact - The riders screwed up. Since it didn't appear anyone got [badly] hurt, it seems funny. See: Schadenfreude
Fact - No one was 'innocent' you choose who you ride with and how you ride.
Fact - The cop sure got up in their shit
Opinion - I don't think you can call ridicule 'hating', not entirely.
Fact - The video was posted.
Fact - The riders screwed up. Since it didn't appear anyone got [badly] hurt, it seems funny. See: Schadenfreude
Fact - No one was 'innocent' you choose who you ride with and how you ride.
Fact - The cop sure got up in their shit
Opinion - I don't think you can call ridicule 'hating', not entirely.
Well like I said, you don't know the whole story
Fact-The person who went down, DID NOT POST THE VIDEO ON YOUTUBE
Fact-The person who recorded the video, DID NOT POST THE VIDEO ON YOUTUBE
Fact-The innocent other rider who was taken out AND injured in the process-DID NOT POST THE VIDEO ON YOUTUBE
Some unknown 4th party posted it on youtube and added the caption without the parties involved knowledge.
But carry on with the hate
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egrep
Serious Business
Schadenfreude
it's like 'America's Funniest Videos' where everyone laughs their ass off as old Grandpa Moses trips over the baby and both of them tumble down the staircase
Tsk Tsk, it sucks. Humans are ass.
it's like 'America's Funniest Videos' where everyone laughs their ass off as old Grandpa Moses trips over the baby and both of them tumble down the staircase
Tsk Tsk, it sucks. Humans are ass.
Fair enough egrep
But only 1 rider screwed up, and in doing so took out and injured another barfer. Sucks that people are laughing at his misfortune, when he didnt do anything wrong
silversvs
Lean, Twist, repeat.....
Two completely different events yet just about the same outcome. Both events claimed that a police officer caused a rider to crash by tailgating riders during a group ride, unsafely passing some riders, then getting right behind a rider who crashed due to panicking about getting pulled over. Both events occurred within days of each other or on the same day. The BARFer who sent me the video linked in this thread, was confused and stated it was video of a thread that was occurring in the LEO forum and was then closed by the OP. With that BARFer's permission and his assurance that the OP wanted it as well (on the false belief he was associated with the OP) the thread was reopened and the video linked. Shortly after that I discovered that there were two separate incidents and the BARFer who sent me the video had confused them. So I shut down the thread again and it has drifted off to LaLa land.
Make sense?
What is interesting, and apparently the same, about both events is that folks got all upset and blamed the crash on the officer. By watching this video it is clearly the riders fault for crashing. My whole premise about wanting to reopen the deleted thread was that perception is often not reality. I'm sure that the riders who crashed were convinced that the officer caused the collision and blamed the officer. But the proof is in the video.
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One of the involved parties asked me to watch the video, but I wasn't sent a link;
I'd love to see the report on the TC.
If that went to civil court it would be hard to convince a jury that CHP caused the accident.
Silversvs,
I was actually the rider and starter of the other thread you are talking about
I took 100% responsibility for my own crash, it was my own action that caused me to go down and I realize that and learned from it. I panicked when I saw a LEO just a few feet from my six, (even though his lights were not on). So it wasn't that he was pulling me over, but the his presence and close proximity made me very uncomfortable, so I tried to pull off onto the first pull out I saw to let him pass (me thinks he was really after the gixxer in front of me who took off like a mad man, and assumed we were all associated and riding in a similar fashion). As a result, I tried to pull off onto a shoulder (dirt) off 84 to let him pass. I was still slowing as I hit the dirt, front brake+sport bike+dirt isnt a good combo, so the front end washed out, throwing me of the bike. Ego and bike bruised
100% my fault, yes, it was mainly my inexperience and panic that caused it. I've only been riding a few months and new riders don't handle panic situations as well as more experienced ones.
HOWEVER, I must say, If the LEO had never been there in the first place or at such a close distance, I really don't think I would have panicked and I would not have gone down that day. I have already been pulled over by a LEO on 9 and the experience was very different. He followed me from saratoga, he kept a safe distance (ie no nascar drafting like the other one), hit the lights to pull me over, and I slowly went onto the shoulder, no harm no foul, he just wanted to let me know I had a nice bike then turned back to town
Unfortunately my second experience was not the same. I accept blame for my crash and won't let a LEO or any other car/bike intimidate/spook me ever again, that's for sure, but I still think the LEO in my case could have conducted himself in a better manner. He also tailed both of my friends at very close range before crossing the DY to pass as they were doing the speed limit before he planted himself on by arse.
Its like if you see a deer in the road, lock up the front, and crash. Ultimately it was your fault for panicking and locking up the front. Now, was the crash the deers fault? No, but had the deer not been present, you would not have ever been put in that panic situation that ultimately lead to a get-off.
I was actually the rider and starter of the other thread you are talking about
I took 100% responsibility for my own crash, it was my own action that caused me to go down and I realize that and learned from it. I panicked when I saw a LEO just a few feet from my six, (even though his lights were not on). So it wasn't that he was pulling me over, but the his presence and close proximity made me very uncomfortable, so I tried to pull off onto the first pull out I saw to let him pass (me thinks he was really after the gixxer in front of me who took off like a mad man, and assumed we were all associated and riding in a similar fashion). As a result, I tried to pull off onto a shoulder (dirt) off 84 to let him pass. I was still slowing as I hit the dirt, front brake+sport bike+dirt isnt a good combo, so the front end washed out, throwing me of the bike. Ego and bike bruised
100% my fault, yes, it was mainly my inexperience and panic that caused it. I've only been riding a few months and new riders don't handle panic situations as well as more experienced ones.
HOWEVER, I must say, If the LEO had never been there in the first place or at such a close distance, I really don't think I would have panicked and I would not have gone down that day. I have already been pulled over by a LEO on 9 and the experience was very different. He followed me from saratoga, he kept a safe distance (ie no nascar drafting like the other one), hit the lights to pull me over, and I slowly went onto the shoulder, no harm no foul, he just wanted to let me know I had a nice bike then turned back to town
Unfortunately my second experience was not the same. I accept blame for my crash and won't let a LEO or any other car/bike intimidate/spook me ever again, that's for sure, but I still think the LEO in my case could have conducted himself in a better manner. He also tailed both of my friends at very close range before crossing the DY to pass as they were doing the speed limit before he planted himself on by arse.
Its like if you see a deer in the road, lock up the front, and crash. Ultimately it was your fault for panicking and locking up the front. Now, was the crash the deers fault? No, but had the deer not been present, you would not have ever been put in that panic situation that ultimately lead to a get-off.
PorradaVFR
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Fact-The person who recorded the video, DID NOT POST THE VIDEO ON YOUTUBE
Some unknown 4th party posted it on youtube and added the caption without the parties involved knowledge.
But carry on with the hate
FACT - the video didn't unilaterally leap off the camera onto some unknown 4th party's computer to be uploaded.
egrep
Serious Business
You put it very well, sorry it happened. I think the cop was a [needing to be big] dick, but he likely thinks he was protecting humanity. Nonetheless as you know and state, it was your fault ultimately. Still pisses me off he had to drive on you like that. Good on you that you know it's up to you how you ride and how much some other vehicle/event can throw you off. Don't let it happen to you again, I'm sure.
Silversvs,
I was actually the rider and starter of the other thread you are talking about
I took 100% responsibility for my own crash, it was my own action that caused me to go down and I realize that and learned from it. I panicked when I saw a LEO just a few feet from my six, (even though his lights were not on). So it wasn't that he was pulling me over, but the his presence and close proximity made me very uncomfortable, so I tried to pull off onto the first pull out I saw to let him pass (me thinks he was really after the gixxer in front of me who took off like a mad man, and assumed we were all associated and riding in a similar fashion). As a result, I tried to pull off onto a shoulder (dirt) off 84 to let him pass. I was still slowing as I hit the dirt, front brake+sport bike+dirt isnt a good combo, so the front end washed out, throwing me of the bike. Ego and bike bruised
100% my fault, yes, it was mainly my inexperience and panic that caused it. I've only been riding a few months and new riders don't handle panic situations as well as more experienced ones.
HOWEVER, I must say, If the LEO had never been there in the first place or at such a close distance, I really don't think I would have panicked and I would not have gone down that day. I have already been pulled over by a LEO on 9 and the experience was very different. He followed me from saratoga, he kept a safe distance (ie no nascar drafting like the other one), hit the lights to pull me over, and I slowly went onto the shoulder, no harm no foul, he just wanted to let me know I had a nice bike then turned back to town
Unfortunately my second experience was not the same. I accept blame for my crash and won't let a LEO or any other car/bike intimidate/spook me ever again, that's for sure, but I still think the LEO in my case could have conducted himself in a better manner. He also tailed both of my friends at very close range before crossing the DY to pass as they were doing the speed limit before he planted himself on by arse.
Its like if you see a deer in the road, lock up the front, and crash. Ultimately it was your fault for panicking and locking up the front. Now, was the crash the deers fault? No, but had the deer not been present, you would not have ever been put in that panic situation that ultimately lead to a get-off.
Yeah, the point of my thread was not to place blame on the LEO involved, just a mini-rant. Traffic LEOs main function is to catch evil doers to make it safer for EVERYONE involved,with that sort of objective, there is no rhyme or reason to drive aggressively and unsafe in an effort to catch those who are also being unsafe
To me it seemingly defeats the purpose of them being there in the first place. There is a reason why pursuits are called off after certain speeds are achieved or within city limits. It's better to let one guy get away than it is to potentially injure/kill an innocent person.
To me it seemingly defeats the purpose of them being there in the first place. There is a reason why pursuits are called off after certain speeds are achieved or within city limits. It's better to let one guy get away than it is to potentially injure/kill an innocent person.
Archimedes
Fire Watcher
Threads on this place spiral out of control faster than any forum I've ever been on. I vote that there ought to be a rule that to post on BARF you have to be willing to attend a meeting once a month with other BARFers and act out a thread in person.