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crazy man at 16th St BART (NSFW)

jdhu said:
It's funny. I am not a trained fighter by any means, but to me, the "respect" this "artist" is getting for his acrobatic skills is overdone. Yes, he seems nimble and in reasonable shape, so what? I really doubt he would be successful doing some back-flip pirouette to knock an opponent out, harm someone, etc.
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I can't be the only one who thought of this when I saw the BART dude video.

[youtube]xyROHIK_eMs[/youtube]

edit - dude's also got some capoeira stuff on his facebook page :dunno
 
NorCalAthlete said:
I can't be the only one who thought of this when I saw the BART dude video.

[youtube]xyROHIK_eMs[/youtube]

edit - dude's also got some capoeira stuff on his facebook page :dunno
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LOL! Wow, guy even looks like him. Thread jack for a second...South Beach Tow...:laughing:laughing:laughing

Show is staged and pretty ridiculous.
 
Nick said:
A carotid restraint would work, but very briefly (between half a second and 5 seconds probably). PCP increases the pulse rate, so blood returns to the brain very quickly. When it does, be prepared for the guy to be twice as violent as before.
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THIS.

NorCalAthlete said:
Not to mention punching and kicking people, including the women he grabbed...
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Karbon said:
Dude it's exactly what was happening. People saw the what went on, decided the risk vs reward wasn't favorable and walked on.

That lady was screaming her head off and scared shitless didn't seem to think think he was harmless, and neither the BART employee, everyon one else decided it wasnt worth it to intervene.
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Had the woman had a gun, and she fired and hurt or killed the attacker, she'd never see the inside of a courtroom. Clearly she's in fear for her life.
 
Rel said:
Had the woman had a gun, and she fired and hurt or killed the attacker, she'd never see the inside of a courtroom. Clearly she's in fear for her life.
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Rel, I've been curios about this point...would she still really have gotten off, given that carrying concealed gun is illegal? Just curious how that would go down. Also, curious how that would go down if there wasn't any video evidence.
 
GiorgioFurioso said:
Rel, I've been curios about this point...would she still really have gotten off, given that carrying concealed gun is illegal? Just curious how that would go down. Also, curious how that would go down if there wasn't any video evidence.
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Carrying concealed without a permit is illegal. Carrying concealed with a permit is perfectly legal and I doubt Rel was advocating carrying without a permit.
 
GiorgioFurioso said:
Rel, I've been curios about this point...would she still really have gotten off, given that carrying concealed gun is illegal? Just curious how that would go down. Also, curious how that would go down if there wasn't any video evidence.
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JesasaurusRex said:
while i hope you're right, i reaaallllyy doubt that
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As a simple minded beat cop, I'd have a real hard time making an arrest after seeing the video. Also, if no video exists, there are plenty of witnesses. Even if there are no witness, he's male, naked, agitated, in a public place and pressing her in a corner.

I should have clarified my statement about court: She'd never see the inside of a criminal court. Sadly, she may be drawn into a civil trial because had she killed him, the family would sue her. We all know he's going to cure cancer or save the world or something....
 
Rel said:
...Had the woman had a gun, and she fired and hurt or killed the attacker, she'd never see the inside of a courtroom. Clearly she's in fear for her life.
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Rel I have to disagree on this. Even though she was in fear of her life, and rightfully so, she is still responsible for every bullet that comes out of that gun and within certainty she sill be sued by the assailant's next of kin in civil court.
 
Rel said:
Had the woman had a gun, and she fired and hurt or killed the attacker, she'd never see the inside of a courtroom. Clearly she's in fear for her life.
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I think she was more in fear of being touched by a Dirty Willy.
If the woman was in fear of her life how come the man was released ?

Rel said:
I should have clarified my statement about court: She'd never see the inside of a criminal court. Sadly, she may be drawn into a civil trial because had she killed him, the family would sue her. We all know he's going to cure cancer or save the world or something....
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How can she shoot with a bullet gun him if he's unarmed? And "fear in her life" defined by, "attacked by an unarmed person at noon among 20 other passengers and two Transit employees"??
And she could've accidentally shot the other people too--like the woman passing through the gate at the same time, behind the naked guy. And the guy with a bicycle too.
 
Outta Control said:
Rel I have to disagree on this. Even though she was in fear of her life, and rightfully so, she is still responsible for every bullet that comes out of that gun and within certainty she sill be sued by the assailant's next of kin in civil court.
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Ahem. 2 posts up.

Rel said:
I should have clarified my statement about court: She'd never see the inside of a criminal court. Sadly, she may be drawn into a civil trial because had she killed him, the family would sue her. We all know he's going to cure cancer or save the world or something....
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GiorgioFurioso said:
Given that this happened in SF, there is no such thing as a concealed permit. Unless you're a cop, or VERY politically connected.
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This also happened at BART, which connects all over the Bay Area. Outside of SF, it's difficult but not impossible to get a permit. Permits are valid statewide, you only go through your county of residence to obtain it. Someone who obtained a permit in Alameda traveling by BART into SF is perfectly legal to carry on BART or in and around SF.
 
For the BARF lawyers, study up on Fear and Intent. That's all she has to say, and prove to the DA.

As for being responsible for the bullets, the aggressor is on the hook for all the rounds fired. Had the aggressor not been acting the way he was, she wouldn't have had a need to fire.

In a combat shooting, which this would be, first goal: survive the encounter. She's a victim. The aggressor is not a victim.

Now granted, this is all moot since she didnt shoot him, but... had she......
 
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