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Elon Musk: cars you can drive will eventually be outlawed

The amount of stupid in this thread is staggering. :twofinger

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nakedape said:
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Flew LB to SFO 10 years ago on Jet Blue and the pilot announced afterward that the whole trip, from taxi to landing, was automated.:(
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There has just been a case where a LH airbus descended 1000m/min due to iced sensors. Pilots had to turn computers off to regain control.
 
TripleSeven said:
Freedom to drive what, where and how we want is one of the biggest aspects of being American. Wont happen.
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Which is why you can do smoky burnouts in an open-fuel dragster while drinking a bottle of Wild Turkey in downtown areas.:x

This freedom to drive you speak of - where is that in the Bill of Rights again ?
 
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Hawaiirider said:
Which is why you can do smoky burnouts in an open-fuel dragster while drinking a bottle of Wild Turkey in downtown areas.:x

This freedom to drive you speak of - where is that in the Bill of Rights again ?
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So now something has to be specifically stated in the bill of rights in order to be considered a characteristic of american freedom?
 
Way to miss the point.

Let's see:
1) Driving is a PRIVELEGE not a Right
2) Nearly every aspect of operating a vehicle on Public roads is in fact defined in some way.
3) Relying on "The Pursuit of Happiness" WASN'T good enough for the founding fathers in regards to the 'essential liberties' and thus they DID in fact spell them out rather specifically.

What this has to do with self-driving cars I can't begin to fathom, but I'm rather confident that "Silver Tech" ( money to be made selling enabling technology to aging people ) WILL in fact bring some autonomous vehicles to the streets near you sooner than you think - like in a year or two.

Will there be 'lots' of them ? Probably not, at least at first.

Will they come calling for your Gixxer, in the manner of Big Brother on a hunt for the Red Barchetta ?

I kinda doubt that too - but I DO think it's a bit foolish to say: " I can drive whatever I want, wherever I want, however I want, because: Americuh ! " and that it is the jerks with the biggest impact on their fellow citizens that get loud pipes, loud stereos, screwey lighting, mud-tires and all that other silly crap actually BANNED because they can't understand they aren't the center of the universe.

Just my opinion.
 
Hawaiirider said:
Way to miss the point.

Let's see:
1) Driving is a PRIVELEGE not a Right
2) Nearly every aspect of operating a vehicle on Public roads is in fact defined in some way.
3) Relying on "The Pursuit of Happiness" WASN'T good enough for the founding fathers in regards to the 'essential liberties' and thus they DID in fact spell them out rather specifically.

What this has to do with self-driving cars I can't begin to fathom, but I'm rather confident that "Silver Tech" ( money to be made selling enabling technology to aging people ) WILL in fact bring some autonomous vehicles to the streets near you sooner than you think - like in a year or two.

Will there be 'lots' of them ? Probably not, at least at first.

Will they come calling for your Gixxer, in the manner of Big Brother on a hunt for the Red Barchetta ?

I kinda doubt that too - but I DO think it's a bit foolish to say: " I can drive whatever I want, wherever I want, however I want, because: Americuh ! " and that it is the jerks with the biggest impact on their fellow citizens that get loud pipes, loud stereos, screwey lighting, mud-tires and all that other silly crap actually BANNED because they can't understand they aren't the center of the universe.

Just my opinion.
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They'll never catch me alive. :burnout
 
I guess I'm not seeing where somebody else having an automated car impacts your 'right' to drive a D-9 Catapillar on acid.
 
Hawaiirider said:
I'm rather confident that "Silver Tech"(money to be made selling enabling technology to aging people ) WILL in fact bring some autonomous vehicles to the streets near you sooner than you think - like in a year or two.
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Fancy predicting which makers and/or models will be available in a year or two?

My prediction is the S Class (and similar) in 5-10 years.
 
Exactly - Rolling Coal is for imbeciles, but a proper patch-out (not a chirp) and wheelie ought to be constitutionally protected, dammit.
 
Marcoose said:
Fancy predicting which makers and/or models will be available in a year or two?
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I'd bet a Tech outfit like Google or Apple, maybe Tesla - will have one doing more than demonstration operation before 2017 is out.

I could be all wrong, but I think the continuing degradation of driving skills will be the impetus to get "the market" to relent - as many right here have said: "Can't be much worse than the Ipad-absorbed zombies out there now"

As they grow in numbers the networking capability will improve their efficiency and before 2040 the activity know now as 'driving' will have become as atrophied as marlinspike seamanship is now.

(marlinspike is a tool for ropework, and refers to the ability to splice and do all manner of knots and tying work on cordage. Many modern sailors have never had to do it - there is a nifty shackle for most things...)
 
Hawaiirider said:
I'd bet a Tech outfit like Google or Apple, maybe Tesla - will have one doing more than demonstration operation before 2017 is out.
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It sounds a bit optimistic, but optmism is always good. :thumbup The thing is, the car will have to be legal, homologated, insured and truly 100% self-driving. Google has the modified Prius, which is legal but not homologated. Nevada (me thinks) has something for self-driving, but with caveats. Apple neither has a car or a self-driving system (as far as we know). Tesla has a car, but right now it's betting on the giga factory. Audi has the self-park promo video, but I haven't seen the car on the streets. And AFAIK, that's that. I'm not in the car industry, so I know very little.

That's why my prediction is more in the 5-10-year window when some of the legal kinks will be ironed out, and because this system will cost a mint, it'll come first with the upper models like the S Class, Rolls-Royce, Bentley, etc.
 
My prediction 5 years from now California will be in major depression due to lack of water decimating agro business.
 
Hawaiirider said:
I'd bet a Tech outfit like Google or Apple, maybe Tesla - will have one doing more than demonstration operation before 2017 is out.

I could be all wrong, but I think the continuing degradation of driving skills will be the impetus to get "the market" to relent - as many right here have said: "Can't be much worse than the Ipad-absorbed zombies out there now"

As they grow in numbers the networking capability will improve their efficiency and before 2040 the activity know now as 'driving' will have become as atrophied as marlinspike seamanship is now.

(marlinspike is a tool for ropework, and refers to the ability to splice and do all manner of knots and tying work on cordage. Many modern sailors have never had to do it - there is a nifty shackle for most things...)
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It'll be sucked up by all the foreign money flocking to our shores - to the relief of all locals.

Where is the money coming from? My unsupported claim is the same places where we see our craziest dash cam / intersection madness videos.
 
10 years from now all these "hard core" tire smoker and burn out kings will be driving a automated car anyway.

you can fight it only for so long. don't be foolish when you think you can change the way the industry and society is heading.
 
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