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Hip Hop: What the Hell Happened??!

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This shit goes soooooooo hard
 
Eldritch said:
I cannot image myself ever wanting to listen to their music on purpose, but I have to say I appreciate Yolandi's, "Found her in an Asylum," Hotness and Die Antwoord's associated, "Straight Out Of Arkham," aesthetic.



This is true in the U.S. I would agree. The movement is small and underground enough to not really be relevant. In Europe however, this is wildly untrue. There are still young new bands coming out all the time, the music festivals are GIGANTIC, and there is a ton of money being made there. Most of the big tours don't even come to North America any more, they mainly jst tour around Europe and South America.



Sure, and Jazz people will tell you it is still a thing, but cultural relevance matters. Metal is weak as fuck in the U.S., sadly. The U.S. is incapable of hosting something like the Wacken Annual.
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While you won't hear much rock or metal on the radio, pretty much every metal concert sells out in the US. Last time I saw Slayer, at Cal Expo, there were sick bands and thousands of dirtbags, dirtbagging. Aftershock is still a thing, or at least it was before the 'VID.

While there's nothing like Wacken, I can't say rock in the US is totally dead.
 
SFMCjohn said:
speaking of appreciating hip hop aesthetics, enjoy this new vid, myself:

:party
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HOOO BOY that bassline giving me frissons, me! ...and yeah, the video is visually impressive.

Always loved Missy. Glad to see her putting out new stuff.
 
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Also, you have to forgive some metal heads for dismissing entire genres.

There are plenty out there who think that unless it's Mid-post-late-early-wave Black core from Southwest Malmo in the key of F#, it's not music.
 
aminalmutha said:
Also, you have to forgive some metal heads for dismissing entire genres.

There are plenty out there who think that unless it's Mid-post-late-early-wave Black core from Southwest Malmo in the key of F#, it's not music.
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:laughing

That was not far off from high school me.

I give you a salty Jr. year photo. And Lasers
 

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stangmx13 said:
Missy and her stylist, writer, and director are all on-point for her music videos. its insane how well that video works for the song and artist.
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cheez said:
HOOO BOY that bassline giving me frissons, me! ...and yeah, the video is visually impressive.

Always loved Missy. Glad to see her putting out new stuff.
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:thumbup

guess Daniel Russell directed Cool Off, but also really enjoyed her recent videos with Derek Blanks, where Ms Elliott shares director credit.

Ms Elliott is the real thing:

2019 saw Elliott break new ground as the first female hip-hop artist and third-ever rapper to be inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame.

In addition, Elliott became the first female rapper to receive an honorary Doctor of Music degree from Berklee College of Music, celebrating her lasting contributions to music and popular culture.
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always loved Die Antwoord and really love Lizzo ... the videos, I mean ... always thought a "good" video is a work of art ... transcendent.
hip-hop has certainly delivered for me, over the years ... :dunno

:gsxrgrl
 
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aminalmutha said:
Also, you have to forgive some metal heads for dismissing entire genres.

There are plenty out there who think that unless it's Mid-post-late-early-wave Black core from Southwest Malmo in the key of F#, it's not music.
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:laughing
 
aminalmutha said:
While you won't hear much rock or metal on the radio, pretty much every metal concert sells out in the US. Last time I saw Slayer, at Cal Expo, there were sick bands and thousands of dirtbags, dirtbagging. Aftershock is still a thing, or at least it was before the 'VID.

While there's nothing like Wacken, I can't say rock in the US is totally dead.
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So, Slayer's first album was 40 fucking years ago. 40. They are OLD PEOPLE MUSIC.

You can tell how a genre is doing by how many young new bands are arriving in the scene. I just don't see it in the U.S.. In Finland, brand new young Power Metal Bands are like winning televised band contests and charting albums and shit. In Germany local metal bands are touring all over Europe and Nuclear Blast Records is an industry powerhouse.

Shit, American acts like Danzig and Slayer have even signed with Nuclear Blast in the last few years because that is just where the industry is.

The American taste for Metal is weak. Seems like everything is Hip-Hop out of L.A. or Country out of Nashville. Even Pop isn't as big as it was in the 90's.

SFMCjohn said:
speaking of appreciating hip hop aesthetics, enjoy this new vid, myself:

[YOUTUBE]fgSOPq_XWcI[/YOUTUBE]

:party
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Missy Elliot is another one that seemed to keep my interest in a few good tracks despite my best effort. I kind of preferred the crossover shit she was doing with Ciara back in the day, but she had some good tracks that my Hip Hop Free lifestyle could not ignore. This track is fucking terrible though.
 
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Bingo
People get butt hurt for no reason lol. I love rock and i love metal. Everything, and i mean everything is rap or country in the USA. Everything else is on life support.
 
JesasaurusRex said:
Bingo
People get butt hurt for no reason lol. I love rock and i love metal. Everything, and i mean everything is rap or country in the USA. Everything else is on life support.
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It is easy for me to relate to because my primary Genre (Goth/Industrial) was a pretty short lived scene that barely ever even made it out of the underground. With the exception of a brief period in the late 80's when The Sisters, The Cure, and Ministry were getting a little play on the air/ MTv and then in the 90's Nine Inch Was briefly the biggest act ever, we were barely ever even alive.

It's ok though, we like it better that way.

Undead undead undead...
 
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Eldritch said:
It is easy for me to relate to because my primary Genre (Goth/Industrial) was a pretty short lived scene that barely ever even made it out of the underground. With the exception of a brief period in the late 80's when The Sisters, The Cure, and Ministry were getting a little play on the air/ MTv and then in the 90's Nine Inch Was briefly the biggest act ever, we were barely ever even alive.

It's ok though, we like it better that way.

Undead undead undead...
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Like back when Marilyn Manson was the biggest act on the planet for about a week.
 
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Like back when Marilyn Manson was the biggest act on the planet for about a week.
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He borrowed from us a LOT, but he isn't really one of ours. He is more of a Shock Rock act. Trent did discover him though. That first album was fucking good. He had a couple good singles down the road, but was mostly crap after Portrait.
 
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I'm perfectly happy with extreme metal remaining underground. Death metal show tickets are way cheaper than pop music arena shows :laughing
 
Abacinator said:
I'm perfectly happy with extreme metal remaining underground. Death metal show tickets are way cheaper than pop music arena shows :laughing
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Word. I think I paid $50 to see Testament, Lamb of God, Behemoth (badass btw), Anthrax and Slayer a couple years back. Sure, most of them are old but they all rocked hard.

Relative wanted to take her niece to see Taylor Swift last year until she saw tickets were damn near $200 before the cornholing fees. Seats weren’t even very good.
 
Eldritch said:
He borrowed from us a LOT, but he isn't really one of ours. He is more of a Shock Rock act. Trent did discover him though. That first album was fucking good. He had a couple good singles down the road, but was mostly crap after Portrait.
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I always felt that he had a lot more musical talent than he actually demonstrated, because he was so wrapped up in being shocking and extreme and goth and Marilyn Manson, oh no! that he seriously neglected the music. The first album WAS fucking good, and the second could've been better, but he derailed himself focusing on the image and not the music. Window dressing only sells so much of a mediocre product.

I just want to know where the descendants of Tool and NIN are. Where's my proto-goth-industrial-sludgy-emotional techno-metal at? Too many miscarriages like Korn and Limp Bizkit I guess?
 
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