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Hip Hop: What the Hell Happened??!

I know the thread is about 'rap'. But in a case of blasphemy I just listened to a recording of Miley Cyrus singing "Wish You Were Here" from her SNL appearance.

Worse, much worse than bad "rap music".
 
One of the best actual vocalists right now is a giant clown who goes by Puddle’s Pity Party. Seriously.

Lizzo, who I dunno if you’d call her rap but she does rap here and there is super talented and I believe went to the Berklee College of Music. About as good as you can get from a technical standpoint.

But a lot of great music doesn’t even have vocals at all.
 
It's actually hard to recommend good rap to people that don't listen to rap because theyre typically not familiar with current culture and slang. Therefore they wouldn't appreciate good rap because they have no clue how to even break any of it down. What you're left with is people that only understand what the producer has done and knowing that they don't like curse words lol.

Boomers gonna boom :afm199 :twofinger
 
I often watched rap videos with the sound cranked down around the 2 level.
Seems its all about ho's and cars and I can dig that.
 
True, but the THUG LIFE tat I got back then now says T H U G L I F E due to, well, a little middle aged spread...
 
Kurosaki said:
I could take your preferred genre of music and write an equally condescending post about it calling it trash and not real music.

So I suppose this discussion is pointless. Based on my conversations with you over the years, I was hoping you'd at least try to level with me.

You do you, man.
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It is art, so all perspectives are relative. I mean, it is like I previously stated, I am not a person who should be selected to judge this. I have a very strong artistic bias here based on my appreciation of music as an art form, and the aforementioned genres of music I cannot even really respect as an art form because of their fundamental designs.

There are exceptions of course, like DMX oddly seemed to have a knack for dropping tracks that I would dig, and I really liked SNAP! back in the day, but I don't think they actually count again.

JesasaurusRex said:
It's actually hard to recommend good rap to people that don't listen to rap because theyre typically not familiar with current culture and slang. Therefore they wouldn't appreciate good rap because they have no clue how to even break any of it down. What you're left with is people that only understand what the producer has done and knowing that they don't like curse words lol.

Boomers gonna boom :afm199 :twofinger
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I think this statement, which is utterly bizarre to me, lies at the root of my distaste for the genre.

Why on earth would culture or slang have anything to do with my ability to appreciate some music? I dig on tracks from all over the world in languages I do not speak even a little that also have no video.
 
Not new, but appreciate Die Antwoord's musical/visual artistic vision.

[youtube]RQp8zhMRSOA[/youtube]
 
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aminalmutha said:
But a lot of great music doesn’t even have vocals at all.
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Word!!

[youtube]fQ6XSsrT2no[/youtube]

Jes,

brofist-bro-fist-fist-bump-1c-shirts-kids-baseball-t-shirt.jpg
 
cfives said:
Not new, but appreciate Die Antwoord's musical/visual artistic vision.

[youtube]RQp8zhMRSOA[/youtube]
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I cannot image myself ever wanting to listen to their music on purpose, but I have to say I appreciate Yolandi's, "Found her in an Asylum," Hotness and Die Antwoord's associated, "Straight Out Of Arkham," aesthetic.

JesasaurusRex said:
If you want to talk about dead genres, metal and rock would be them.
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This is true in the U.S. I would agree. The movement is small and underground enough to not really be relevant. In Europe however, this is wildly untrue. There are still young new bands coming out all the time, the music festivals are GIGANTIC, and there is a ton of money being made there. Most of the big tours don't even come to North America any more, they mainly jst tour around Europe and South America.

Abacinator said:
Every metal head disagrees with you :laughing
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Sure, and Jazz people will tell you it is still a thing, but cultural relevance matters. Metal is weak as fuck in the U.S., sadly. The U.S. is incapable of hosting something like the Wacken Annual.
 
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speaking of appreciating hip hop aesthetics, enjoy this new vid, myself:

[YOUTUBE]fgSOPq_XWcI[/YOUTUBE]

:party
 
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