MotoGP Off-Season Thread

[Kurosaki]

Don't you find it the least bit interesting that without Rossi on a bike he can challenge on & Stoner suffering from arm pump and injury, Pedro wins more races than he normally has.

No. I don't.

Dani demonstrated a strong fighting spirit people often accused him of never having in 2012. Brno 2012 is a prime example.

 

[Kurosaki]

By your logic, we could call Lorenzo's 2010 season a fluke since Rossi busted his leg and Stoner was crashing on the Duc.

How silly would that sound?

 

[JO EBRMC]

When did I mention bigger bikes? And WTF does that have to do with his size?

Obviously the bike is more powerful and takes more out of you physically DP,

The 1000cc is a tougher ride DP

I have to believe you are just drunk and don't know what you are posting.

Yah, cuz that guy named Hayden never won a championship. Speaking of flukes.

I'm assuming you just misread the posts or the stats. Pedrosa won the most races of the season and didn't win the title. Hayden won it with just 3 wins. I can see how Hayden's title would be called a fluke but if you win the most races, I just ain't gonna believe that's a fluke.

Really? Looks more like, to me, you haven't a fucking clue what comes out of your mouth.

Show me where JB was right about anything about the Ducati. I'll match everything he has said and double it with shit I've said about it.

 

[sidewazzz]

By your logic, we could call Lorenzo's 2010 season a fluke since Rossi busted his leg and Stoner was crashing on the Duc.

How silly would that sound?

Pedro has NEVER consistently beat Valentino except for 2011 and 2012. We all know why.

Pedro has never consistently beat Stoner until 2012. Up till Indy Stoner had beat Pedro 6 to 4 times in the season. If you count Indy (which was amazing the guy even took a lap) and the few races Stoner came back for Pedro beats Stoner a whopping 8 to 7.

In 2010 Jorge DOMINATED EVERYONE including Rossi. Before Rossi's injury 2>1 Jorge. After the injury (not including races missed by Rossi) 11>3 Jorge. Would Jorge have dominated so much if Rossi wasn't out, probably not but he probably would have won with how spot on the guy was same with 2012.

2012 MotoGP 18 7 4 4 15 5 Honda 332 2
2011 MotoGP 14 3 4 2 9 2 Honda 219 4
2010 MotoGP 15 4 5 0 9 4 Honda 245 2
2009 MotoGP 17 2 3 6 11 2 Honda 234 3
2008 MotoGP 17 2 5 4 11 2 Honda 249 3
2007 MotoGP 18 2 3 3 8 5 Honda 242 2
2006 MotoGP 17 2 2 4 8 4 Honda 215 5

In terms a lot of people can understand 2012 for Pedro was either the YEAR HE JUMPED ON THE JUICE or the year he didn't have to worry about the 3rd place guy because that guy was too busy missing races.

 

[sidewazzz]

I have to believe you are just drunk and don't know what you are posting.



I'm assuming you just misread the posts or the stats. Pedrosa won the most races of the season and didn't win the title. Hayden won it with just 3 wins. I can see how Hayden's title would be called a fluke but if you win the most races, I just ain't gonna believe that's a fluke.




Show me where JB was right about anything about the Ducati. I'll match everything he has said and double it with shit I've said about it.

Funny how you skip the question. You're missing the point about ZOOG were the guy with the most wins didn't win the ship.

BTW you're WRONG AGAIN Hayden did it with 2 wins not 3

 

[Kurosaki]

Pedro has NEVER consistently beat Valentino except for 2011 and 2012. We all know why.

Pedro has never consistently beat Stoner until 2012. Up till Indy Stoner had beat Pedro 6 to 4 times in the season. If you count Indy (which was amazing the guy even took a lap) and the few races Stoner came back for Pedro beats Stoner a whopping 8 to 7.

In 2010 Jorge DOMINATED EVERYONE including Rossi. Before Rossi's injury 2>1 Jorge. After the injury (not including races missed by Rossi) 11>3 Jorge. Would Jorge have dominated so much if Rossi wasn't out, probably not but he probably would have won with how spot on the guy was same with 2012.

2012 MotoGP 18 7 4 4 15 5 Honda 332 2
2011 MotoGP 14 3 4 2 9 2 Honda 219 4
2010 MotoGP 15 4 5 0 9 4 Honda 245 2
2009 MotoGP 17 2 3 6 11 2 Honda 234 3
2008 MotoGP 17 2 5 4 11 2 Honda 249 3
2007 MotoGP 18 2 3 3 8 5 Honda 242 2
2006 MotoGP 17 2 2 4 8 4 Honda 215 5

In terms a lot of people can understand 2012 for Pedro was either the YEAR HE JUMPED ON THE JUICE or the year he didn't have to worry about the 3rd place guy because that guy was too busy missing races.

That doesn't make 2012 a fluke. Stupid word to throw around.

 

[sidewazzz]

That doesn't make 2012 a fluke. Stupid word to throw around.

Right now its a fluke type year. If he puts up numbers consistant to what we saw last year then ill be more than happy to say it wasnt. But until then...

 

[Spec-ECU]

JO and sidewazz, you two are so far up your love-war that you both can't even keep track of each other.

JO, he's sniping at the comment I've bolded, which he read out of context:

You should know by now that people don't actually base their theories on any real evidence but rather just look for the most obvious difference between the subject and everyone else. Think Pedrosa's size or Ducati's CF/frame/and now engine layout.

 

[tonedeaf]

I don't see lorenzo or Danni losing the form they had last year, only way rossi or maquez or anyone else get anything higher than 3rd is if the other two riders DNF

don't forget catalunya 09

granted lorenzo is a lot stronger mentally now, and dani is suddenly an issue...but we have yet to see if rossi can get under their skin. i bet on qatar weekend lorenzo will be trying not to think about the last corner of catalunya

 

[RaptorFA]

On another note, I guess people can put that garbage theory to rest that the reason why Elias couldn't ride a MotoGP bike anymore was because he hangs off the bike too much. Marquez is at least the same amount off the bike.

Elias just couldn't ride new bridgestones

Never underestimate the power or the impact of tires, which for some stupid reaon I seem to keep doing! I'm getting better at that tho...

 

[RaptorFA]

AVERAGE WINS
Now 3.1
Before 2012 it was 2.5

ZOOG ring a bell

Don't you find it the least bit interesting that without Rossi on a bike he can challenge on & Stoner suffering from arm pump and injury, Pedro wins more races than he normally has.

It took 11 days for ZOOG to be mentioned in 2013. It was 13 days before ZOOG was mentioned last year. This will be Your unique and strange observation of the day, dudes!

 

[squidworth]

lol! this thread is hilarious! forget the superbike family show, speed needs to create a reality show based on you guys. it;s like real housewives on bikes

 

[Parx400]

The real housewives of motogp threads. Kropotkin from ADV must be in the show as well.

 

[Goose916]

Pedrosa a fluke season? Wow, kind of ignores all the times he was on the box contending for the win since his rookie season. Last year his focus was better than it had ever been. If he can stay healthy, and that's always a big if for Pedrosa, he's going to fight like hell for the championship. This year, his job depends on wins. Honda has made it pretty clear that it's his time to win.

Rossi can't compete? It's going to be harder for sure, but there's a lot of drive and determination in that man. Add that to his experience and skill and he can't be counted out. I don't think he's done yet and he's hungry to get to the top of the box. 2008 Laguna is enough to win me over that Rossi can never be counted out despite younger, faster and arguably more talented riders. He can will a win. Can he will enough wins to stay in contention is the question.

Marquez too green? Perhaps, but he's aggressive ala Simoncelli. I don't seem his being intimidated by Pedrosa or Lorenzo. He's going to be on the box if he stays healthy.

As an aside, I feel badly for Spies and Dovi. Yeah, they're making money on factory equipment, but man . . . 2-3 seconds a lap. That's just got to be tough this early on in testing with no big changes in sight. Ionne has got to be wondering if he just threw his career away.

 

[Kurosaki]

Right now its a fluke type year. If he puts up numbers consistant to what we saw last year then ill be more than happy to say it wasnt. But until then...

You're pretty much the only one who would discredit Dani's season so go 'head and have at it with your party of 1.

 

[number_6]

for read doe. If Rossi this year has Dani's season from last year then people won't know weather they want to have kittens or puppies, but they will be going crazy for sure.

 

[RaptorFA]

SO 7 wins, 4 2nds, 4 3rds, 1 4th and 2 DNFs for Vale = Lots' o' Cats!

Frankly I don't see that happening, but he could get a win in there, a couple of 2nds, a third or two, a handful of 4th and 5ths, and we'll have a few Cats!

I also see him and Marky Mark tangling quit a bit. My hope here is that this tangling doesn't result in a serious injury to Rossi or Marky Mark. The new penalty system will go a long way to keep this from happening (crossing fingers). But they will be seeing A LOT of each other. Dare I say we may even see some fender-bashing? Oh I think so!

 

[JO EBRMC]

JO, he's sniping at the comment I've bolded, which he read out of context:

I think he not only read it out of context, I think he completely failed to understand the point.

He gets so hung up on trying to prove me wrong on any and every point no matter how insignificant, that he doesn't actually spend any time validating the logic of his points. It gets fairly comical.

 

[JO EBRMC]

BTW you're WRONG AGAIN Hayden did it with 2 wins not 3

Case in point.

That's really what you come back with? You've left me scarred with embarrassment.

 

[number_6]