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Radio Controlled Airplanes?

Well, been flying a lot.

A few weeks ago the airfield took four planes in a matter of 2 days. It was a rough outing.

First up: I was flying my new-to-me 1400mm FMS Zero. My buddy had taken good care of the plane, or so I thought. I tested it, and had seen him fly it 20 times with no problems. I go out, check the connection with my transmitter and off I go.

Within 20 seconds I lose all flight control of the plane. It comes back just in time to save it. I turn around and prepare to land it, when it loses all control again. Smashes no first into the ground and rips the entire nose off, destroys the prop, nose cone, cowling, a few servo's came flying out, etc. I didn't take pictures of it, but needless to say, I was annoyed.

It turns out the ESC was an aftermarket cheap ESC (I wasn't aware) and it decided to die mid flight, once that happened... the receiver stopped getting power and it was all downhill from there. I just finished repairing it a few moments ago and will take it out today to see how it does:

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Next I was flying a little flying wing thing. It's an original ZAGI, really old and not very -- safe to fly -- I was just trying it to try it. As I expected, the motor rotated forward in the mount, launched the prop off and I had a glider. Landed it safely, but I won't be trying to repair it. It's just not fun to fly.

Needless to say, I was done for the day there.

Then my buddy comes out, he brings a few of his planes including his FockWolfe and his giant EPP foam (crap!) Eurofighter. The thing has 8 channels, including thrust vectoring and all kinds of crazy shit.

Well.... this happened to it:
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He was doing a flat spin and when recovering, the wind picked up. The wind kept the plane rotating - albeit in a nose dive - because of the large surface area of the almost-delta wing. He used rudder, aileron, anything and everything and could not get the rotation stopped. Destroyed, it's done. No repairing that one. We sat there kind of in awe for a minute. We have a few rules when flying though:

1) Don't fly anything you aren't willing to destroy.
2) A crash is okay, so long as it's catastrophic and exciting. Crashing on landing or doing something stupid and causing a crash are not exciting, that just sucks.

So, this met both #1 and #2, and as such, we got over it.

The same day, my other friend is flying his P-51 and just dumb thumbs it into the ground and destroys the entire thing. It cannot be repaired either.

Needless to say, the last 2 outings have been bad for a lot of us. I don't know what it was, or if the bermuda triangle just decided to set its sights on my airfield, but it really trashed some shit good. Normally good "pilots" were crashing way too much.

Soooooo, that's about it for now. Right now I'm down to the P-51 belly lander, P-47 is repaired and flying well, and this giant 1400mm Zero which, well, we'll see how it flies here shortly.
 

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Well, the report:

The Zero flew alright, the airframe seems mostly fine. It needed a bit more trim than it used to, but I'm not shocked by that based on what it went through.

The bad news? The motor is a 4250-580KV motor -- runs on a 4 cell. It should be producing somewhere around 500-550watts and/or around 50A. It's rated for 550 or 600watts (can't remember) and 62A.

It was flying extremely slow, basically just above a stall so I brought it in. A watt meter showed the problem: It's only making around 250watts and 18A -- that's less than my size 10 950kv motor in the Parkzone P-51 which is like 1/2 of it's size.

Bottom line? The motor obviously took some damage in the crash, as the result was tested with numerous batteries and had the same problem.

New motor, motor mount, prop and prop adapter are on the way.
 
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I may be the only one updating this thread, but ta hell with it.

Played around with some ESC settings (frequency and timing) and was able to get almost 40% more power out of the motor, but it's still way down from what it should be -- putting out around 360watts and almost 25amps.

When the new motor shows up I'll slap that in and see what kind of power it puts out, and then I'll work on rebuilding the motor currently in the plane.
 
I may be the only one updating this thread, but ta hell with it.

Played around with some ESC settings (frequency and timing) and was able to get almost 40% more power out of the motor, but it's still way down from what it should be -- putting out around 360watts and almost 25amps.

When the new motor shows up I'll slap that in and see what kind of power it puts out, and then I'll work on rebuilding the motor currently in the plane.

I'll play
 

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How the fuck do you people fly those things? I get so damn disoriented and confused that I just tilt sideways and crash.
 
How the fuck do you people fly those things? I get so damn disoriented and confused that I just tilt sideways and crash.

Slowly!!!!!

I too had the exact same problem several years ago. I wanted to throw all of my 10 planes away. I was bbeyond frustrated. I got smart and bought an AXN CLOUDS FLY (Glider). I spent many months just getting back to basic stuff.

It taught me to relax and to anticipate what the plane will do. Forget the fast stuff- get a slower plane and fly it until you can do blind folded.

Or, you just need to take a break.
 
Slowly!!!!!

I too had the exact same problem several years ago. I wanted to throw all of my 10 planes away. I was bbeyond frustrated. I got smart and bought an AXN CLOUDS FLY (Glider). I spent many months just getting back to basic stuff.

It taught me to relax and to anticipate what the plane will do. Forget the fast stuff- get a slower plane and fly it until you can do blind folded.

Or, you just need to take a break.

I was talking about the quad rotors. I'm "all good" with the planes these days. Of course, I make mistakes and crash here or there, but usually when I'm doing something stupid. We can all improve, myself included -- a lot.

All in all though I pretty much have successful flights -- unless there's a mechanical failure of my ESC like last time -- or unless I'm intentionally doing stupid shit way too low. But as far as flying is concerned, that's all fine.

Helicopters / quad rotors though? Fuck that. No way, no how.
 
Hey people these planes and rc copters are fun but be careful. My friend flies planes and now huge helicopters and he's been texting me pics of some really nasty rc accidents. Just people being dumb and cutting corners.

One guy reached in while copter blades were turning to fix something in the middle. Blade grabbed his shirt and the next blade took his hand off completely clean.

Another guy got his face all sliced up. You could see neck muscles and his brain was sliced open. He died. These are the big helicopters I'm talking about. About as big as a table.
 
Bought my daughter an E-flite Apprentice, then promptly got it stuck in a tree. :(

Actually she'd been flying well. We'd both done a bunch of time on the sim, and had several successful flights prior to getting it stuck (plus she flew plenty at a camp over the summer). But she got a little too close to the trees and misjudged distance I guess.

If anyone has any plane-tree-extraction advice, it's welcome. It's about 50' up in some kind of tree that's just branches and no leaves this time of year. We've tried a fishing weight and 60# test line, shook the hell out of the top of the tree, but couldn't get high enough to fling it loose. FD considered helping, but can't go on the grass. Park maint guys said they might be able to get it with a cherry picker during the week.
 
Bought my daughter an E-flite Apprentice, then promptly got it stuck in a tree. :(

Actually she'd been flying well. We'd both done a bunch of time on the sim, and had several successful flights prior to getting it stuck (plus she flew plenty at a camp over the summer). But she got a little too close to the trees and misjudged distance I guess.

If anyone has any plane-tree-extraction advice, it's welcome. It's about 50' up in some kind of tree that's just branches and no leaves this time of year. We've tried a fishing weight and 60# test line, shook the hell out of the top of the tree, but couldn't get high enough to fling it loose. FD considered helping, but can't go on the grass. Park maint guys said they might be able to get it with a cherry picker during the week.

Have the FD bring the ladder, you climb it and get it.

Or grab a 15ft roofing ladder to get a little closer and cast from there.
 
Have the FD bring the ladder, you climb it and get it.

Or grab a 15ft roofing ladder to get a little closer and cast from there.

FD was willing to help, but they can't get their truck close enough. No paved roads close enough, and they can't take it out on park grass; they'd sink and get stuck.

We're headed back to the park in a bit. I'll bring a ladder this time. :thumbup
 
^^ recovered. Fishing line, a weight, some rope, and a slingshot. If y'all get a plane stuck in a tree, I've got some amount of experience in this area now. :laughing :cry
 
Sounds familiar. I took my son out on Superbowl Sunday 2011, so we could both learn to fly his brand new RC Plane, before our Superbowl party. I got it stuck 50 feet up in a tree. I brought him home and picked up twine and fishing weights etc. It was the fourth quarter by the time I made it home, but I did get the plane.
He now has a room full of them and is an amazing 3D flyer. I'm sure I'd get it stuck in a tree again.
 
Thankfully (for my sake) she was the one that flew it into the tree. This allows all future shit talking to go in the proper direction. :laughing

We've also named the plane... Treehugger.
 
My wife got me one of the Air Hogs quads, the Helix x4.

What's interesting is that it's the first AH bird that puts the rudder on the correct stick, so flying this thing will help me get rid of all the bad habits previous 3.5ch birds have given me.
 
I have this on it's way to me right now...

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I'm sure it will end up in a tree. :p
 
Radvas-

I'm happy to hear that you got your plane back. The Apprentice is an amazing trainer. It is very stable and forgiving, but is also a plane that she can grow into.
 
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