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School me on a 2010 BMW 800GS

stan23 said:
lol.. Other than charging obscene prices for OEM parts - I don't find BMW's more special than the other premium brands i've had (Ducati, even MV Agusta)
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I havent' found BMW parts any more obscenely priced than any other brand. Yeah, most parts cost more than they should. But I didn't find that any different from the Suzukis I owned before I bought my first beemer.

Most of my Husky parts aren't that expensive. Of course, there is always the occasional part that seems priced ridiculously...

But then the Luckys on Bernal Rd. in South San Jose is selling corn at $5.99 an ear...
 
stan23 said:
Protip: They didn't sell many F800GS's. It's kind of an odd man out bike for BMW.
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They sold plenty. They couldn't keep them in stock for some time when they were new. It won several Bike of the Year awards as well.


stan23 said:
The F800GS is expensive, somewhat heavy, and those looking to do some serious dirt work would probably go straight to KTM (990ADV)
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that KTM is heavier than the 1200GS...

The F800 is well placed in the line as the middleweight, more dirt friendly GS bike. The F650 weighs just as much and is less capable. The G650GS is lighter and much less powerful and less capable off road as well.
 
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mnb said:
Uh, they sold plenty. They couldn't keep them in stock for some time when they were new. It won several Bike of the Year awards as well.
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Yeah mostly the necessary parts aren't THAT bad. Seems normal enough if not slightly more expensive. Buying the BMW add-ons though. Like a bash plate etc, is worlds more expensive.
 
revnort said:
Buying the BMW add-ons though. Like a bash plate etc, is worlds more expensive.
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Yeah, I hear ya. Ok, yeah, that stuff is expensive. The bash plate was pricey, but it's so much better than any other choice. Although the new AltRider plate looks good.

The touring windscreen is ABSURDLY expensive. But it is about the only tall windscreen that doesn't' look dorky or downright hideous. It works pretty well, too. At least for me. I've been happy with it.

Those are the only two BMW branded aftermarket add ons I bought, though.
 
I made a huge excel and broke down the costs of the BMW parts (factoring in the 15% one time purchase discount (and 10% for life of the bike)) vs.purchasing and installing 3rd party stuff.

BMW stuff purchased:
- Hand guards
- Light guard
- Aluminum pannier set (3 boxes) and mounts - totally worth it, TraX cases would have only been $200 cheaper and they keyed them to the ignition key.
- Flashing aux brake light

Aftermarket:
- Denali D1 Aux Lights
- Ricochet Skid plate
- SW-Motech Crash bars
- Used Garmin Zumo 450 GPS and mount
- Brittania Composites Mirage 2 Windscreen

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mnb said:
I havent' found BMW parts any more obscenely priced than any other brand. Yeah, most parts cost more than they should. But I didn't find that any different from the Suzukis I owned before I bought my first beemer.

Most of my Husky parts aren't that expensive. Of course, there is always the occasional part that seems priced ridiculously...

But then the Luckys on Bernal Rd. in South San Jose is selling corn at $5.99 an ear...
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Sure they are; go price an o-ring or some random nuts and bolts sometime. I just bought some winglets for my GS. it's 2 pieces of plastic and some mounting hardware. BMW charged me $60 for the plastic pieces and $40 for the mounting hardware. While we're here, try pricing the windscreen mounting kit for the GS. It's a few pieces of nuts and bolts and the kit is $60.

Oh and they make this retrofit kit in order to keep the top case from falling off. It's literally a bolt, some washers, and a locknut - $30.

I had to buy a coil pack for my dual spark. BMW charges $144 for one coil.

I'm not even talking about accessories - I'm talking about parts.

I've owned Ducati, Husqvarna, KTM, and MV Agusta - all bikes i've had to purchase parts for, and so far BMW has been the most expensive.

mnb said:
They sold plenty. They couldn't keep them in stock for some time when they were new. It won several Bike of the Year awards as well.




that KTM is heavier than the 1200GS...

The F800 is well placed in the line as the middleweight, more dirt friendly GS bike. The F650 weighs just as much and is less capable. The G650GS is lighter and much less powerful and less capable off road as well.
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Bike of the year does not equate sales. If the F800GS was such a stellar seller, then why has it been bested by the 1200GS for every year running? I'm pretty sure the F650GS outsold the F800GS as well.

The KTM 990 ADV is heavier than the R1200GS, but it's a MUCH more capable dirt bike - I don't need to go into the specific's why, but it's pretty common knowledge.

Any thing else I can school you on MNB?
 
c-mo said:
Seems fair http://www.kbb.com/motorcycle/retail/2009/bmw/f800gs/249624/?r=271089856512844580
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Retail only applies to a retailer...IOW, a dealer. A private seller is not a retailer and doesn't have overheard to recoup. The generally accepted way of interpreting KBB's motorcycle retail values for private sellers (since for some reason they don't offer a private party-value for motorcycles) is to use the average between the trade-in value and the retail value as a starting private-party value.

I get $8892.50 as the average based on my zip code. And lets not ignore the fact that this bike has had some serious work done to it as a result of a warranty failure.
 
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For what it is worth, this was casually mentioned before but deserves to be brought up again...

BMW's shock design on the 800 is terrible. The 'bent bolt' issue wasn't really an aftermarket deal, but plagues the stock parts as well due to a shoddy design. For daily puttering, it isn't a big deal... but if even the most moderate of dirt riding is to be done, it's just a matter of time.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=486251

88 pages of shock bolt bending pleasure. Enjoy!
 
http://www.southbayriders.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108037

First it was the clutch, which failed completely in the middle of nowhere at 3600 miles.

Then the soft kickstand that would bend in 2-3 months so badly that the bike was leaning severely.

Today, the first signs of the next failure on the F800GS appeared. I cannot shift into neutral when the engine is running. The transmission is a bit stiff around 1st and 2nd when shifting, but you cannot get it in neutral. Power down, it drops in like normal. Clutch feels normal. Other shifting feels normal.
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If I was the owner of this bike, i'd find someone to kick me in the nuts, and fork over $500, cuz i'd be cheaper and less painful!
 
Kestrel said:
For what it is worth, this was casually mentioned before but deserves to be brought up again...

BMW's shock design on the 800 is terrible. The 'bent bolt' issue wasn't really an aftermarket deal, but plagues the stock parts as well due to a shoddy design. For daily puttering, it isn't a big deal... but if even the most moderate of dirt riding is to be done, it's just a matter of time.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=486251

88 pages of shock bolt bending pleasure. Enjoy!
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yeah I have read it. like i said most of the problems are from after market shocks.
 
I just can't seem to fall in love with the motor.

Very competent bike, but the I-twins do nothing for me, apparently regardless of the displacement.
 
stan23 said:
Any thing else I can school you on MNB?
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You should check my bike list and consider my two decades of experience with BMWs before making such a statement...
 
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