RightCoastBias
F8TRED
for $1,500 i could hire a "backpack" to ride with me facing backwards and i can use my headphones for music and GPS
Give the "backpack" a gun and you've got something the Skully doesn't.
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Skully P-1 what is your take on it?
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Give the "backpack" a gun and you've got something the Skully doesn't.
so a few points. Yes there is at least ONE beta tester on BARF... ME.
There is a lot of work ahead to bring this to market and we are excited some have decided to join the ride.
I am invested in, helping build, helping design and will be working with them through out the entire program to ensure the helmet is as awesome as people imagine. I have ridden with the prototype helmet on both the street and track multiple times. Refinements will be happening continuously.
There is a fully detail FAQ here:
http://www.skullysystems.com/faq/
A few notes on some comments I have read:
with 97,000 people signing up to be on the beta list you can imagine not everyone will be picked, there were many in consideration and a select few were picked. Some celebrities, some tech nerds, some influencers and some everyday riders.
The crowd funding campaign is to take the prototypes to reality. Getting these produced isn't something that will happen overnight. A lot of time, effort and funding has gone into getting the prototypes speced out and parts sourced.
The shells have been DOT and ECE certified and will have a full range of sizes. As production models are coming together there will be events for more hands on experiences for those that can attend.
The discussions about cost have been heard, the technology has not reached the economy of scales to bring it below the current price point. The target was to get these in to the premium helmet range and while it may seem overpriced there are comparable tech gadgets selling in the same range with out the helmet.
About the idea that this is a distraction. NO ONE here is Ironman, no matter what everyone's girlfriends tell them, and having all the information people want to see in the display is simply not a viable option. A person can walk around your bike with the helmet on and you will never lose sight of them as your head remains still. Sure there are bikes that have mirrors that allow this but the mirrors still require eye accommodation to FOCUS on the reflected image. The optics focus to INFINITY. When you see this in action it will make a LOT more sense. having G force meters, braking strength, acceleration, RPM, Maps, Time of Day, flight path off the next jump, apex markers on track are all amazing ideas but the display is very much there as a utility and NOT to overload one during a ride. The product is about safely bringing technology to the ride not distracting.
NO Beta testers have their OWN helmets YET. There are not enough of them to be widely distributed, and those that do exist are VERY expensive prototypes. Beta testers have been helping form the product from the start to avoid going down an irreversible path. The beta testing program is ongoing and those that have been chosen will be part of the process through out. As each stage progresses there will be more conversations with the beta group.
I am super excited to be part of this and here debunk the rumors and myths that the internet tends to generate. There is also a forum setup to go deeper than the above listed FAQ:http://skullysystems.forumchitchat.com/
There is a lot of work ahead to bring this to market and we are excited some have decided to join the ride.
I am invested in, helping build, helping design and will be working with them through out the entire program to ensure the helmet is as awesome as people imagine. I have ridden with the prototype helmet on both the street and track multiple times. Refinements will be happening continuously.
There is a fully detail FAQ here:
http://www.skullysystems.com/faq/
A few notes on some comments I have read:
with 97,000 people signing up to be on the beta list you can imagine not everyone will be picked, there were many in consideration and a select few were picked. Some celebrities, some tech nerds, some influencers and some everyday riders.
The crowd funding campaign is to take the prototypes to reality. Getting these produced isn't something that will happen overnight. A lot of time, effort and funding has gone into getting the prototypes speced out and parts sourced.
The shells have been DOT and ECE certified and will have a full range of sizes. As production models are coming together there will be events for more hands on experiences for those that can attend.
The discussions about cost have been heard, the technology has not reached the economy of scales to bring it below the current price point. The target was to get these in to the premium helmet range and while it may seem overpriced there are comparable tech gadgets selling in the same range with out the helmet.
About the idea that this is a distraction. NO ONE here is Ironman, no matter what everyone's girlfriends tell them, and having all the information people want to see in the display is simply not a viable option. A person can walk around your bike with the helmet on and you will never lose sight of them as your head remains still. Sure there are bikes that have mirrors that allow this but the mirrors still require eye accommodation to FOCUS on the reflected image. The optics focus to INFINITY. When you see this in action it will make a LOT more sense. having G force meters, braking strength, acceleration, RPM, Maps, Time of Day, flight path off the next jump, apex markers on track are all amazing ideas but the display is very much there as a utility and NOT to overload one during a ride. The product is about safely bringing technology to the ride not distracting.
NO Beta testers have their OWN helmets YET. There are not enough of them to be widely distributed, and those that do exist are VERY expensive prototypes. Beta testers have been helping form the product from the start to avoid going down an irreversible path. The beta testing program is ongoing and those that have been chosen will be part of the process through out. As each stage progresses there will be more conversations with the beta group.
I am super excited to be part of this and here debunk the rumors and myths that the internet tends to generate. There is also a forum setup to go deeper than the above listed FAQ:http://skullysystems.forumchitchat.com/
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RightCoastBias
F8TRED
Thanks for the write up.
For some reason it makes me want it even less, or at least makes it seem like less viable of an option.
No offense intentionally directed at you. I think your post is informative and well written.
For some reason it makes me want it even less, or at least makes it seem like less viable of an option.
No offense intentionally directed at you. I think your post is informative and well written.
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The order you have picked appears to be right in line for what they are looking for: Page Views.
Yet that last category, everyday riders, will be where the sales will be if the product is a success. I haven't seen that many squidly types buying Schuberth helmets, for example, let alone X11's or X12's.
My annoyance with Skully is that their website is nearly devoid of technical data. Maybe they should knock off the Wharton School formula, and get it on with some motorcyclists. You know, the people who want the hard data before they shell out the 1+ grand on some gadget.
I like the gadget, I just happen also to recognize the marketing genre. It's like they are selling $85 razor blades, or something similar.
FXCLM5
bombaclaud
for your track bikelike i said before, this helmet needs to be crash tested in real world scenarios, before i wear it on a track, other mfg have years and years of data to evolve their designs,
1st design may be tailored to get more tech features in the helmet instead of actually designing a shell that absorbs the energy on impact?
i like it too, but the price point is staggering and am not convinced its worth 2x more then your shoei or arai
1st design may be tailored to get more tech features in the helmet instead of actually designing a shell that absorbs the energy on impact?
i like it too, but the price point is staggering and am not convinced its worth 2x more then your shoei or arai
Z3n
Squid.
Bouncing my head off the ground is already a thousand dollar bill, between the helmet, the gopro, and my sena. What's the big deal with a $1400 price? It's a luxury good for a luxury market. If you can't afford it, that's not a knock against you personally, it's just the cost realities of doing proper R&D, testing, development, blah blah blah blah blah blah. Price is pretty much whatever, over 5 years, that's 75c a day. If you crash a lot, you might want to consider a different helmet. If you don't, sacrifice 2 out of 7 visits a week to the local artisinal coffee and toast shop and you'll more than cover the cost of the helmet.
Can't believe I even have to explain this, but their crowdsourcing isn't for funding, it's for marketing and production information. You gain information about demand and the ideal production flow by looking at the reactions, number of preorders sold, marketing uptake, etc.
The biggest concern with the helmet is that indiegogo offers no guarantee that you actually get a product. I've waited for years for a helmet like this, another 2 years of waiting isn't a big deal against the $1500 risk of never getting a helmet.
Can't believe I even have to explain this, but their crowdsourcing isn't for funding, it's for marketing and production information. You gain information about demand and the ideal production flow by looking at the reactions, number of preorders sold, marketing uptake, etc.
The biggest concern with the helmet is that indiegogo offers no guarantee that you actually get a product. I've waited for years for a helmet like this, another 2 years of waiting isn't a big deal against the $1500 risk of never getting a helmet.
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Z3n
Squid.
Yeah or you could buy 40 pep boys helmets instead! 
Edit: Oh shit, they're on sale for 35 bucks each!
http://www.pepboys.com/tools/powersports/helmets/00826/
Edit: Oh shit, they're on sale for 35 bucks each!
http://www.pepboys.com/tools/powersports/helmets/00826/
YellowBastard
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Except we know Arai makes safe and good helmets. All we know about Skully is that their founder had a vision once, and that their marketing is inspired by Tony Robbins.
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There's enough asshole drivers with their phones and GPS. Now they're going to be on 2 wheels? Great.
Z3n
Squid.
Either you trust the ece standard or you don't.
FXCLM5
bombaclaud
I would rather trust my personal head with a helmet that has had years of r&d behind it, there is a reason why these companies have a gigantic market share.
Your right its aluxury item, but lets say if arai. Or shoei or agv or any ther major helmet mfg came out with this, id prolly buy it and not worry because this helmet is a evo of all their patents
With this new mfg im very skeptical
Your right its aluxury item, but lets say if arai. Or shoei or agv or any ther major helmet mfg came out with this, id prolly buy it and not worry because this helmet is a evo of all their patents
With this new mfg im very skeptical
Z3n
Squid.
Ultimately the standard keeps them honest, not history and patents.
All helmets are functionally the same - hard shell, eps liner. That hasn't changed in decades. Do your research.
All helmets are functionally the same - hard shell, eps liner. That hasn't changed in decades. Do your research.
TylerW
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I wish the HUD in these models would project their display in areas that don't contain valuable road data - either above the brow, down in the chinbar or well off to the side. As it is now, it just seems like a massive distraction.
I am a big believer in technology in helmets. I definitely would like to see more developments in HUD field, bone conductive speakers, etc,
I am a big believer in technology in helmets. I definitely would like to see more developments in HUD field, bone conductive speakers, etc,
Xanthoria
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if anyone wants to ask questions in person, there's this:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-future-of-design-in-wearables-and-iot-tickets-12482406213
Wearable Wednesday presents
"The Future of Design in Wearables and IOT"
August 27th @ Wearable World
Join us to discuss design, how it’s evolving, breaking rules, designing on different surfaces/screen sizes and the thought process into what it takes to create a design that people will enjoy and want to own. Our panel of speakers includes:
Frog Design's Creative Director, Denise Gershbein
Carnegie Mellon's Distinguished Service Professor of Innovation & Entrepreneurship, Dr. Stuart Evans
Skully Helmet's CEO, Marcus Weller who has raised over 1 million dollars in less than two days on Indiegogo for his smart design
Moderating the panel is Eliane Fiolet, Co-founder and Editor of Ubergizmo
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-future-of-design-in-wearables-and-iot-tickets-12482406213
Wearable Wednesday presents
"The Future of Design in Wearables and IOT"
August 27th @ Wearable World
Join us to discuss design, how it’s evolving, breaking rules, designing on different surfaces/screen sizes and the thought process into what it takes to create a design that people will enjoy and want to own. Our panel of speakers includes:
Frog Design's Creative Director, Denise Gershbein
Carnegie Mellon's Distinguished Service Professor of Innovation & Entrepreneurship, Dr. Stuart Evans
Skully Helmet's CEO, Marcus Weller who has raised over 1 million dollars in less than two days on Indiegogo for his smart design
Moderating the panel is Eliane Fiolet, Co-founder and Editor of Ubergizmo
HeatXfer
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moto-rama
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I don't like helmets painted to look like asphalt. They are not visible, and they do not reflect the sun, so they heat up. No thanks.
Besides, I can buy a helmet that I really like, and add a quality blue tooth system to do most of what that helmet does.
The rear camera is nice, but for 1500 dollars, I want it to blow me, too.
I have a Sena communications unit that has the features that I am interested in.
If the Skully was priced around 500-600 dollars, I might take a look, but that flat black paint is such a bad choice for the beta, that I have to question the common sense of the people that built it. And if I really wanted to pay a lot of money for a helmet, I'd get a Schuberth or something like that.
Besides, I can buy a helmet that I really like, and add a quality blue tooth system to do most of what that helmet does.
The rear camera is nice, but for 1500 dollars, I want it to blow me, too.
I have a Sena communications unit that has the features that I am interested in.
If the Skully was priced around 500-600 dollars, I might take a look, but that flat black paint is such a bad choice for the beta, that I have to question the common sense of the people that built it. And if I really wanted to pay a lot of money for a helmet, I'd get a Schuberth or something like that.
Just got this email. at first i was all SWEET they listended to everyone bitching, then read down further and nope, it's just a down payment, aka layaway.....
Dear SKULLY Nation,
We have received many requests for a financing option. We agree that SKULLY should be accessible to as many riders as possible.
In response to your feedback, for the next 18 days we are providing a financing option at checkout on SKULLYSYSTEMS.com. (No credit check necessary).
$499 NOW AND $949 DUE AT SHIP
You can now reserve your SKULLY AR-1 with a $499 deposit, with a second payment of $949 due when your helmet ships.
Helmets reserved via this financing option will ship after all regular pre-orders are shipped. Financing is a limited time offer.
Ride smart with your SKULLY AR-1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy-cJOoOF8c
Dear SKULLY Nation,
We have received many requests for a financing option. We agree that SKULLY should be accessible to as many riders as possible.
In response to your feedback, for the next 18 days we are providing a financing option at checkout on SKULLYSYSTEMS.com. (No credit check necessary).
$499 NOW AND $949 DUE AT SHIP
You can now reserve your SKULLY AR-1 with a $499 deposit, with a second payment of $949 due when your helmet ships.
Helmets reserved via this financing option will ship after all regular pre-orders are shipped. Financing is a limited time offer.
Ride smart with your SKULLY AR-1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy-cJOoOF8c