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Perfect! According to the officer, this is an example to be used in education of a justified shooting. That means this is exemplary! I wonder what the new 'fringe' grey area will be like. Pretty soon we will be gunning drivers down instead of issuing speeding tickets.
 
I never said you guys had to stop acting like idiots since I left.

However someone did take it upon themselves to find my personal email as well as my Facebook and continue the harassment there.



Maybe you should look to your own behavior instead of whining like a puppy that just got weaned..............oh wait that's right you're not weaned yet. And by the way there's a hell of a lot of us here that will speak your name with no fear whatsoever in our voices

Egad what a ridiculous sigline , goes with an equally ridiculous handle.


And the wwwwwahhhhbulance is thataway>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 
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Did me ears deceive me? According to the video report, one of the 'expert' witnesses plans to use the video of the shooting as an example in training for when shooting is justified. :wtf

Thank dog Ohio is many, many miles away.
'Expert witnesses' are sometimes paid liars who are willing to trade their name for a payday.

This guy obviously is one of those types. Anybody who would even consider using that video in that manner should be automatically barred from being in Law Enforcement!
 
To whomever has taken it upon themselves in this thread to continue harassment outside of the forum after I clearly stated I was leaving BARF:

I have come back to make one last, VERY CLEAR, statement.

LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE. NOW.

I will pursue necessary legal action if need be. Grow the fuck up.

Deuces.

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edit: General....? I see what you did there, got it. :later
 
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Mr. McCloskey testified that he and a friend were riding motorcycles at about 2:15 a.m. when they took a route down Indian Road in Ottawa Hills. He said that because of the noise of his Harley Davidson motorcycle, it wasn't until he had come to a complete stop at Central Avenue and began idling that he realized a police vehicle was behind him with its lights and sirens activated


I think this is one more stake in the heart of the "LOUD PIPES SAVES LIVES" arguement.
 

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Did me ears deceive me? According to the video report, one of the 'expert' witnesses plans to use the video of the shooting as an example in training for when shooting is justified. :wtf

Thank dog Ohio is many, many miles away.

These people are out of their fucking minds. There's no two ways about it.

What kind of idiot would use a video of a guy who pulled over 6 seconds after being lit up and wasn't making any movements and didn't turn out to be armed as a case for appropriate use of lethal force?
 
These people are out of their fucking minds. There's no two ways about it.

What kind of idiot would use a video of a guy who pulled over 6 seconds after being lit up and wasn't making any movements and didn't turn out to be armed as a case for appropriate use of lethal force?
I think it should be used as a what not to do training video.

Looked to me like they blasted off from the stop sign at high speed...
Watching the video, it looks like McCloskey's friend blasted away at a high rate of speed. It was his friend who jumped the curb and lost control.

McClosley, just as he pulled over signals to the officer that he was pulling over and rests his hand on his thigh. McCloskey's demeanor was kool, and anything but threatening.

The officer seems to be intimidated by folks on bikes and imagined the threat. :thumbdown
 
The point you highlighted doesn't support your thesis. I underlined the key word -- "willfully." In other words, for there to be felony evasion, you have to show intent. It's not "well, he should have stopped sooner" or "I think he was trying to flee," the DA will have to prove that he intended to flee in order for felony evasion to stick.
So, even though there is no explicit reference in the code as to how long a pursuit had to last, the length of the pursuit is relevant in trying to prove intent. Sometimes intent is straightforward -- the guy flipping the cop off or something as he rides off into the sunset -- but if you don't have that sort of specific evidence, you need to look to evidence that can support an inference of intent. A lot of people would probably think that a long pursuit supports a finding of an intent to flee. You wouldn't know for sure until you got in front of a jury, but it seems it might be hard for the prosecution to prove intent when all you have to go on is a short period between the lights coming on and the stop.

And, even if you proved "willful," under this statute, for it to be a felony, you need the additional evidence that the person either injured someone or damaged someone's property, or that there was a "substantial risk" of such injury or damage. In other words, it's not just up to cop to make a snap decision "OMG FELONY EVASION" and come out with guns blazing.

I'm a bit late to the party (read: I haven't had time to read all posts, sorry if redundant, refuted, responded to...) BUT from what I read, the PROSECUTOR is charging Officer White, not McCloughskey (aka. the victim). That's why White is facing 11 years in prison.

Quick Draw McGraw!
 
Bad decision by the cop. He should have stepped back and commanded the rider what to do before approaching. Commands like"drop keys on ground, step away from the bike, lay on the ground", etc,
 
Ok, all those harrasing Jihiadikiller, put it on lockdown please. The guy asked to be left alone. Entropic, VTRZA, gixxerjoe, Ant, bluenote that means all of you. Here's the deal: official moderator request. Let it all go, stick to the topic in the thread and move on please. Any continuing of this track or discussion will result in suspension votes which is something that's a waste of all our time. Let's just get back on track.

I'd also like to say: forgive and forget guys. We all need a way to leave with our tails.
 
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