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The Home Grower's Thread

Replanted my last indoor clone outside...
 
So I've decided that the current light setup is not working for me. It takes too much effort to keep the temps down. I've decided to replace the dual 315w (630 total) with 2 x Electric SKy 180s (2 x 180 watts) and use half the power and lower the heat. ALso my electricity bill was like $350 last month!

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HappyHighwayman said:
So I've decided that the current light setup is not working for me. It takes too much effort to keep the temps down. I've decided to replace the dual 315w (630 total) with 2 x Electric SKy 180s (2 x 180 watts) and use half the power and lower the heat. ALso my electricity bill was like $350 last month!

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Say you have a single indoor plant setup.
How long would it take to grow a plant? What might it yield? Just curious.

Last year, I grew 2 plants outdoor and netted about 22 oz of bud. No electricity was used. Lots of water though.
 
Like 3-4 months depends on how many plants but I can get a fair amount. Like right now I'm doing 1 big plant but next I'll probably do 6 x 5 gallon plants


I'd 100% grow outside but I get no light

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Doing so well. Will likely flip within a week.

 
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Yakoo752 said:
What is your recommendation? You haven't really provided one other than mine is wrong.

Would you really encourage someone to go out and by root powder for 1 plant? 1 plant? 1?
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Always clone off of known good plants.

Always harden off cloned shoots (including one node) in distilled water overnight. No root powder needed. Just add a few drops of super thrive to the water. Always root in ph neutral rock wool.

It’s possible to root fresh floppy clones after direct dipping in the s-thrive but if the clone is really good/important give it time to take up the hormone and get turgid. 90+% viability can be expected with this routine.

There’s a lot of wives tales surrounding all phases of cannabis production. I speak from long experience. Started growing DWC in ‘89 with Dutch seeds (Skunk #1) and kept the male to make seeds. Bred them and spread them far and wide. Consulted with many novices, often experimentally, and ended up getting a visit from Ed Rosenthal. My friends garden made HT cover.

Once you get to 1.5 oz per ft2 (indoor) you can call yourself a grower. I usually PM suggestions to people posting here about this stuff because of all the strong and unfounded opinions, but I slipped and got a predictable response.

Since we are here, it only takes 20 minutes to extract the bulk of THC from a hot water/fat extraction for butter/oil. After that you’re getting crap in the end product you neither need or want. Some posters here list recipes for two hour simmers or *gasp* overnight special equipment magic machines. None of this is needed. But like moto farkles and magic exhaust pipes some equate razzle dazzle to efficacy. It’s just needed, nor is grafting!
 
So I hooked up just one of the lights for now. Man these things come with daisy chain capability so you can power multiple lights of one and have a dim switch which I won't likely need.

So at the same distance as the CMH lights it had like 1/3rd the lumen but when I put it much much closer the lumens were slgihtly higher than the max I got from the CMH which I also had to keep plenty far due to heat. The temp in the tent has dropped like 10 degrees and when I have the second one hooked up for flower I'll get total coverage though right now the Lux reader says its about the same (I rotated the plant).



The bud sites have grown across the scrog should I consider switching to flower soon?
 
You generally try to get as much weed as you can, given your space and lights and such, so you have to work backwards and envision a finished plant by tent height and light coverage, have a rough idea of stretch and flip when you think it makes those things line up. The plant looks about where I'd flip if sitting on a table, but you have ~18" advantage by setting the pot on the ground, so I'd personally keep it in veg at least another week, maybe two.
 
byke said:
You generally try to get as much weed as you can, given your space and lights and such, so you have to work backwards and envision a finished plant by tent height and light coverage, have a rough idea of stretch and flip when you think it makes those things line up. The plant looks about where I'd flip if sitting on a table, but you have ~18" advantage by setting the pot on the ground, so I'd personally keep it in veg at least another week, maybe two.
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Thanks a lot. I agree. The lights put off very little heat so there is a lot more theoretical grow height with the LEDs than there were with the old lights. Gonna let them grow. Incidentally they seem to love the new lights...



So much less heat.
 
nakedape said:
Always clone off of known good plants.

Always harden off cloned shoots (including one node) in distilled water overnight. No root powder needed. Just add a few drops of super thrive to the water. Always root in ph neutral rock wool.

It’s possible to root fresh floppy clones after direct dipping in the s-thrive but if the clone is really good/important give it time to take up the hormone and get turgid. 90+% viability can be expected with this routine.

There’s a lot of wives tales surrounding all phases of cannabis production. I speak from long experience. Started growing DWC in ‘89 with Dutch seeds (Skunk #1) and kept the male to make seeds. Bred them and spread them far and wide. Consulted with many novices, often experimentally, and ended up getting a visit from Ed Rosenthal. My friends garden made HT cover.

Once you get to 1.5 oz per ft2 (indoor) you can call yourself a grower. I usually PM suggestions to people posting here about this stuff because of all the strong and unfounded opinions, but I slipped and got a predictable response.

Since we are here, it only takes 20 minutes to extract the bulk of THC from a hot water/fat extraction for butter/oil. After that you’re getting crap in the end product you neither need or want. Some posters here list recipes for two hour simmers or *gasp* overnight special equipment magic machines. None of this is needed. But like moto farkles and magic exhaust pipes some equate razzle dazzle to efficacy. It’s just needed, nor is grafting!
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NO shit!! I have Ed's book!

https://books.google.com/books/abou...ver&source=kp_read_button#v=onepage&q&f=false

Life didn't really line up this year for me to do an outdoor garden. My smoke habit has been drastically reduced too so I'm not missing the finished product much but, the joy of an inexpensive outdoor hobby grow I do miss.
 
Looks really good, J. I think you've got a happy plant. I've been having some trouble with a couple having droopy leaves closer to the top, but the top itself is still praying. I've seen it before when our well water gets dirty and that happened recently, so I'm thinking that's what's going on. Just need to stay on top of it and they snap out after a week or so. One of them is still doing well though, here's the big dog. Gonna need some thinning out, but it's tough to get in there with the cages. I thinned it out just before installing the outer cage and you can see the bottom looks good, but it's just blown up in stretch. Photo doesn't do it justice, it's about 8.5ft tall from the top of the bed.

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So crazy.

So theoretically is it better to run a single plant in this thought experiment with full power lights the entire grow (once it's out of seedling) or keep the power lower and then turn it up in flower?

I have the two led lights so wondering if I should keep both on for future grows or do one for veg and both for flower.
 
HappyHighwayman said:
So crazy.

So theoretically is it better to run a single plant in this thought experiment with full power lights the entire grow (once it's out of seedling) or keep the power lower and then turn it up in flower?

I have the two led lights so wondering if I should keep both on for future grows or do one for veg and both for flower.
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Commercial indoor growers pretty much run max power all the time. The more power, the faster they grow and the sooner you flip and time is money. I like the idea of one plant and just veg it longer, though if you run into problems, there's only one plant versus maybe some others that are salvageable. There's no right or wrong for a home/hobby grower, imo. You just choose whether you care more about time or simplicity.
 
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