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The NHL Thread, 2012/2013 season

Preseason are some of my favorite games, gives people a chance to see Worcester kids play on SJ ice.
 
In related hockey news, SF Bulls of ECHL is set to have their opening night at the Cow Palace on Oct 3rd. Would be attending myself if I didn't work that night.
 
and what's worst about this?

the fucking referee lockout in the NFL is the only lockout people are talking about.

nice job, Bettman. you really got the players by the balls now.
 
Honestly, at this point I hope the entire season is lost and we can just move on.

Fehr is a douche. The end result here is inevitable, whether it happens tomorrow or a year from now. The players are not going to get what they want and they're just wasting everyone's time.
 
Fehr sounded like a whiny little bitch today who didn't get the lollipop he wanted and is now going to stomp his feet and hold his breath until he does. He's shocked that the owners wont just cave in to his demands. As soon as his name entered the conversation, it was obvious that we were in for a long lockout.
 
When I read the NHLPA hired Fehr last year to negotiate the new CBA, I knew we were fucked. Somehow the lockout doesn't make me mad, just disappointed both sides are willing to let the momentum come to an abrupt stop.

Hypothetical question: how would you feel if the NHL was shortened and the Sharks managed to win the Stanley Cup? Would that be a championship marked with asterisk? Or would you celebrate it like the real deal?
 
uclaktsai said:
When I read the NHLPA hired Fehr last year to negotiate the new CBA, I knew we were fucked. Somehow the lockout doesn't make me mad, just disappointed both sides are willing to let the momentum come to an abrupt stop.

Hypothetical question: how would you feel if the NHL was shortened and the Sharks managed to win the Stanley Cup? Would that be a championship marked with asterisk? Or would you celebrate it like the real deal?
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I do, and I think it's BS. I can't imagine wanting to win a "short" season. It's like winning, but not....not being completely satisfied.

This is why i saw screw this entire season, use the extra 10 months to sit down and actually get something in place that works best for everyone (mostly the fans).

If not, I might have to boycott NHL period. Now that we have the Bulls, I have an alternative to get in my fix.
 
Allan Walsh ‏@walsha

Bill Daly's most recent quote: "I'm really not sure where we go from here. We have done everything we can think of to try to engage (1/3)
the PA and invite them into a negotiation. But they aren't biting. I guess their definition of negotiating is making a proposal and (2/3)
standing pat until the other side accepts it." (3/3)

Zach Parise on the NHL Owners Lockout: “You hope it doesn’t go too long, but it’s tough to grasp when you’ve got a guy in Gary Bettman (1/3)
bragging every year that we’re making ‘record revenue, record revenue, record this,’ and all of a sudden they want to take a quarter (2/3)
of what you’ve made away. That doesn’t make sense to anybody. It doesn’t matter what industry you’re in.” (3/3)

And the greatest gem of all;
Jim Devellano, Detroit Red Wings Senior VP
"It's very complicated and way too much for the average Joe to understand, but having said that, I will tell you this: The owners can basically be viewed as the Ranch, and the players, and me included, are the cattle. The owners own the Ranch and allow the players to eat there. That's the way its always been and that's the way it will be forever. And the owners simply aren't going to let a union push them around. It's not going to happen."
 
B-Cuz said:
Jim Devellano, Detroit Red Wings Senior VP
"It's very complicated and way too much for the average Joe to understand, but having said that, I will tell you this: The owners can basically be viewed as the Ranch, and the players, and me included, are the cattle. The owners own the Ranch and allow the players to eat there. That's the way its always been and that's the way it will be forever. And the owners simply aren't going to let a union push them around. It's not going to happen."
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That's it in a nutshell and everybody can see it except Donald Fehr. He's convinced the players that there is an alternative universe where they can dictate the terms of the CBA to the owners. Unfortunately, he has convinced them that they have leverage that really doesn't exist. I expect that, starting with the first announcement of regular season games being cancelled which is coming any minute, he will start the negative rhetoric and make it progressively louder over the next two months. Nothing will get done and the players will be face a decision in November as to whether they want to cave and play half a season, or throw the whole season away. And then cave next summer. There is zero chance that the players are going to get what they want, and what they inevitably settle for whenever they settle, will be no better than what they could get today. So they are just throwing money and parts of their careers away.
 
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