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Thoughts on AWD cars?

That's a bad ass vid Nick!
 
Ha then they were not trying hard enough or they were in the wrong AWD car.

There is a reason that the SCCA banned Audi AWD's and Mitsubishi Eclips AWD's from racing back in the late 80's and 90's - they absolutely spanked all the far more expensive 911's and GT1 specials. The 911 owners all all of the SCCA's GT1 Class objected, so AWD's were banned for 20 years.

The whole point of high performance AWD cars is that they have unbelievable dynamics at the limit.

:rolleyes This has been beaten to death on other forums so many times. You can't compare the performance of purpose built AWD race cars to road cars. The test I refer to tested, acceleration, braking and handling through all three conditions, dry, wet and snow. They also tested emergency maneuvering. They also compared the exact same Audis (FWD vs. AWD) The only condition where AWD stood out was snow. The reality is, a RWD passenger car with ASC is going to perform as well as an AWD passenger car in most situations, except snow. I love my AWD cars, but I also recognize that there's a trade off to them and the real benefit is in the snow.

I owned a 340HP B6 S4 with AWD back-to-back with a RWD 333HP E46 M3 and I can tell you (as can every magazine test) that the M3 accelerated, cornered and braked better than the S4.
 
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I'm sure the B6 S4 is way heavier and with a more forward positioned engine than the E46 M3.

Therefore yeah ahem the M3 *could* (and it does?) corner better.

Well but the OP wants the AWD so.. whatever.

On the other hand maybe that's an interesting idea then. Would the OP want a used E46 M3???? Rough ride I bet..
 
A car thread? How did I miss this? :cool

Why on earth would you want to waste money on boring All Wheel Drive cars when you could find a nice boxy Volvo 240 and drive it like a fucking savage?

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Hahahaha! Awesome Kestrel!
 
All of the negative Volvo commentary on BARF only drives me forward. ;)

But really... If you can't get sideways, why even drive at all? And why drive in a car that makes it even harder to get sideways?!

Volvo+Rally.jpg


If you aren't doing this on your commute EVERY single fucking day, you have failed as a human being.

Disclaimer: I do miss driving our family's old WRX, but that thing never wanted to misbehave... It only wanted to GO. And I do enjoy misbehaving.
 
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All of the negative Volvo commentary on BARF only drives me forward. ;)

But really... If you can't get sideways, why even drive at all? And why drive in a car that makes it even harder to get sideways?!

Volvo+Rally.jpg


If you aren't doing this on your commute EVERY single fucking day, you have failed as a human being.

Disclaimer: I do miss driving our family's old WRX, but that thing never wanted to misbehave... It only wanted to GO. And I do enjoy misbehaving.

i find this far less compellilng than what you posted in charlesR's thread..

Was just reading that thread on the TB forums ;) For those of you interested...

http://www.turbobricks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222596

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Moves in a hurry, doesn't it?

now tell me, for those of us that don't want to pay off a smog shop, what's the best 1975 and older volvo WAGON to stuff a chebby v8 into?
 
i find this far less compellilng than what you posted in charlesR's thread..

now tell me, for those of us that don't want to pay off a smog shop, what's the best 1975 and older volvo WAGON to stuff a chebby v8 into?

But look at the driver! Do you see that??? Pure unbridled joy! A happiness which none of us have seen since childhood, having lived too long in this world that pushes us daily toward an existence of cynicism and defeat! All brought about by a lack of hooligan behavior, boring front wheel drive econoboxes, and expensive performance cars that we are reluctant to drive hard, due to their replacement cost. The solution? A Volvo!

:teeth

As to the wagon question... Not much to choose from. 1975 was the first year of the 240s. 140s, which have a less attractive wagon, ran from the 60s to 74. I don't envy your CARB rules in the least... Here in NC, if it isn't OBD2, there is only a safety inspection... And once a car is 35 years old or more, you don't even have that. 3 more years with the Volvo and I'll be there!
 
hummm... so either find the first year 240 that every volvonut in CA wants orrr.... wifey likes that 140 also, could live with a sedan i guess.
 
:If you go STi or Evo, you're going to spend a a ton on insurance.

I totally disagree with that. I owned an evo and im 21 and my insurance was around 150 a month for full coverage
 
But look at the driver! Do you see that??? Pure unbridled joy! A happiness which none of us have seen since childhood, having lived too long in this world that pushes us daily toward an existence of cynicism and defeat!

Speak for yourself. :teeth
 
I might have a little.

If you can stand the looks of the current gen TL (2009+), our SH-AWD system has been super super reliable.

Because of its torque vectoring operation it's really more for performance/fun driving than it is for getting unstuck from snow/mud.

:thumbup friggen Honda
 
:thumbup friggen Honda

Wait till you see the new SH-AWD setup we've got coming out in a few months debuting on the Acura RLX Sport Hybrid. No more prop shaft. Rear differential powered by twin electric motors. They can even vector reverse torque now.
 
Wait till you see the new SH-AWD setup we've got coming out in a few months debuting on the Acura RLX Sport Hybrid. No more prop shaft. Rear differential powered by twin electric motors. They can even vector reverse torque now.

Errrr what does that mean exactly?
 
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