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Walking Dead-Season 2

sophia coming out last as a walker was very good scenario....

it was easy for shane and others to shoot the other walkers but when it came to their own, it was an eye opener...

i think glen is the only one that still respects them as human, as he told maggie...
 
I'll bet they show what happened to Sophia...you saw all the clues, the can of sardines, the bed she made in the pantry...they'll probably even show her picking a flower.

Then she gets stuck in the swamp and a walker bites her. at least that's my guess...
 
Herschel did NOT know about Sophia being in the barn! One of the writers of the show said so on, "The Talking Dead", after show that, Herschel had no idea about Sophia because Otis did the walker catching and Shane murdered Otis before the, "we're looking for a lost girl in the woods", discussion came out.

and yet knowing that they were looking for a lost kid, description and everything, and that she was last seen while they were being chased by walkers, none of the farm family who was going in there on a regular basis to feed them and put new ones in the barn bothered to look?

gaping.plot.hole. esp when the first they asked as Rick and Shane ran up with Carl bleeding was "was he bit?". they told the family then and there they had been out looking for Sophia, so there was time for Otis to pull Herschel aside and say, um, ya know how i told you I found a little girl we didn't recognize as local out there yesterday?". the farm group specifically looks for who they know- when Rick went along with the catch poles, Herschel told him who the woman was. the man he said he didn't know, so it would stand to reason that any walkers brought back and put into the barn would be identified if possible.

weak excuse

RB_ the timeline wouldn't fit if they are going to show backstory and say she went to all those places they searched and spent at least one night in the empty house. wouldn't have been enough time for her to get get bitten, turn and be brought in my Otis before he went hunting and shot Carl
 
Take over a neighboring farm. There should be plenty available out there, no need to take one already occupied.
I think in the desperate conversation/negotiation between Rick and Herschel, Herschel suggested this and Rick replied they were all overrun by walkers.


Shane and Carl gives the writers an opportunity to explore a re-structuring of traditional society in the wake of the zombie apocalpyse. Ditch the western idea of mom and dad raising kids and introduce the idea of the extended family or the community raising the kids. Probably too much for this show.
 
<hijack> gotta love product placement. I shoulda known there was something up with the focus on it.

http://www.gerbergear.com/Apocalypse/Gear/Apocalypse-Kit_30-000601

better keep Michael Bay types away from mah zombie mythos! :p

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this + lots. In many normal families, at least when one is away from the coasts, and in most every other culture in the world, extended families and family friends become mentors and guides for children. I personally had three extra non-blood related uncles who brought different viewpoints and backgrounds to the table. Having more eyes and more weapons watching out for your childrens' safety makes a whole ton of sense-if you're not the messed up Hollywood post-apocalyptic mother archetype anyways. By alienating Shane in season 1, she drastically reduced her son's chance of survival.

Shane and Carl gives the writers an opportunity to explore a re-structuring of traditional society in the wake of the zombie apocalpyse. Ditch the western idea of mom and dad raising kids and introduce the idea of the extended family or the community raising the kids. Probably too much for this show.
 
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maybe we may cheer that shane killed otis later
 
I think in the desperate conversation/negotiation between Rick and Herschel, Herschel suggested this and Rick replied they were all overrun by walkers.
That was Maggie, I guess she knows the neighborhood.

Rick just keeps acting like this is the only farm he's ever seen in his whole damn life. :rolleyes
 
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I don't get it, is it some kinda symbolism?

Just finished watching the latest episode. Talk about a cliff hanger!
 
All I gotta say is- What a GREAT episode!!!!!!!

I too, am very conflicted by Shane. I do believe that he is a POS, but at the same time- he is a 'Great Shot', which in these times- is a great assett.

I do not know if this is true or not, but I feel that some 'younger' people do not have the same ideas about respect, and thus are more willing to accept Shanes 'RUDE' behavior. I think 'older' people have an understanding that these people are "Guests" on this farm. This is why Rick and the Old Man, were trying to do whatever they could to 'keep the peace' and not be kicked off of the farm.

Yes, Herschal may be a dillusional nut bag, but it is HIS land. Rick understands that, and wants to keep his family safe, at all costs.

Oh, and the farmers Daughter- has some nice hips!!!!
 
just bc they are animated does not mean they are alive.

I can pick up a puppet and make it move. so maybe walking dead are just meat puppets being animated by say- a parasite? maybe something as small as a colony of bacteria that feed off and stimulate electrical impulses in the brain. the parasite kills the host, but uses the corpse to spread.

like Shame was trying to show Herschel- you can put a bullet right through major organs and they just keep coming. you can't put them down until you shoot them through the head.

interesting.....
 
It wasn't hugely premeditated, but it was calculated. I do believe he was watching how much ammo Otis had left, and planned the strike for the instant when Otis would not be able to shoot back.

Also, when he goes and risks himself on these missions for the sake of others, a big part of his motivation is also trying to prove himself, trying to gain the favor of others by showing how strong and indispensable he is. He has a powerful NEED to be competent, to get things done, to control his surroundings. Not to say he doesn't care about Rick or Carl, but there's a selfish slant to even his more altruistic motives. He gets very angry when other people don't afford him the respect he feels he's earned with his previous accomplishments-- note when he was bringing up to Lori how many times he's saved her life, and so on. Which is true, but the possessive sense of entitlement there is dangerously strong.

Actually, thinking on it, if Rick wasn't there Shane would probably never have descended to this level of madness. It's the sense of inadequacy, and not being in top dog in charge that's pushing him over the edge. He might not be an ideal leader on his own, but he wouldn't be quite so batshit. Rick is just a little too oblivious to the damage this imbalance is causing-- it's not his fault exactly, but he thinks of his friend too highly and it's giving him a blind spot there while Shane boils over.

I say give him Andrea and let them do their own thing, but it's probably too late for him to be satisfied with that. He's going to take any rejection by the group very, very hard-- partly because he feels entitled, partly because he's terribly lonely and frightened.

very interesting......still catchingup w/ks
 
So let's rehash the rules for zombie survival in farmland Georgia:

-- Keep at least one zombie in the well
-- Hide all guns
-- Snare zombies and stumble with them at least half a mile back to farm
-- Store large amount of zombies in barn 100 yards from where you sleep
-- Waste chickens and eggs feeding zombies

Success!
 
the role of herschel is gonna evolve i think, for better or worse. his daughter knows this, glen bridges that between the two opposing ideologies.
 
Shane, despite being a great shot and having good survival instincts, is too volatile and unpredictable, making him a liability more than an asset. Andrea too.

Send them off on their own, let them do whatever they want. I'd rather lose the sharpshooter than end up shot by him while I sleep.
 
Shane's motives are so clear i'd go so far as to say he's VERY predictable.

you just have to be impartial enough to see it. Rick is not impartial enough. in fact, the only character who clearly is impartial (and close) enough is Dale.
 
I do not know if this is true or not, but I feel that some 'younger' people do not have the same ideas about respect, and thus are more willing to accept Shanes 'RUDE' behavior. I think 'older' people have an understanding that these people are "Guests" on this farm. This is why Rick and the Old Man, were trying to do whatever they could to 'keep the peace' and not be kicked off of the farm.

I think Rick and Shane are very similar in age. In one of the episodes they're talking about chicks Shane banged in high school. They were talking like they were in school together.
 
I think Rick and Shane are very similar in age. In one of the episodes they're talking about chicks Shane banged in high school. They were talking like they were in school together.

Wilit-

I was not referring to Shane vs Ricks (age), but rather, I was 'guessing' about the responses on BARF being 'age related'.
 
part of the show is about what parts of society fall apart and what we hang on to after the Z apocalypse.

in some ways it makes sense to say FUCK YOU HERSCHEL! WE'RE TRYING TO SURVIVE AND YOU'VE GOT ZOMBIES IN THE BARN! but when you think about what kind of society you are trying to rebuild, then respecting Herschel and HIS decisions on HIS farm makes sense. you can say that surviving is the first step, and rebuilding is the second. but if you don't keep an eye out for what kind of society you want to build post-apocalypse, then you'll likely end up just living like animals.

everything's hypothetical. there are so many options when you hafta start over from scratch. Shane's got his way figured out. he's absolutely a survivor. but i don't want to live in his world. Dale, god bless him, is too idealistic. i understand him, but i just don't think he's being smart.

i think we're looking at just one band of survivors. just like in the Road, i'm sure there are others somewhere that are killing, raping, and pillaging their way across the wasteland, just as there is Herschel and his farm closing themselves off from the outside world. IF THE SHOW EVER GETS OFF THE DAMN FARM, maybe this little band of survivors will run into a whole different kind of survivor group. i think part of the reason that we're following these people is because they represent a coming together and a compromise of some of the better and worser parts of society that need each other to survive.
 
I am a fan of zombie movies, so I wonder if anyone else has ever noticed this. It seems these movies take place in a world where people have never heard the word zombie before or even know of the concept of zombies. It's always a shock to them when the dead are reanimated. Also, they NEVER use the word zombie, they always have some other term like walking dead or walkers.

I always thought it was weird.

i wonder if some Zombie lit authors actually have thought about this. i mean, we like to joke about the Zombie apocalypse and pretend to prepare for it. but if it really happened, do you think the gov't would actually call them Zombies? if they managed to actually trace the Zombie parasite/pathogen/virus, whatever, they'd come up with a name for it. and i'm sure they'd want to keep people form saying "zombie," even if that's what they were.

also, it can be seen as a coping mechanism. if the zombie apocalypse happened, i'm sure 99.9% of the population, even if they knew what zombies were, wouldn't want to admit that that's what they were. it's great fiction, but if it were real, i think there'd be a concerted effort to avoid that particular appellation. i'm sure the only way some people could handle the post zombie world would be to not even accept that they were zombies. sure, they're physically dead but they walk and move and eat. but to admit that they're ZOMBIES! much easier to turn a switch in your brain and say: it's a disease, they're walkers or postmortem animates, or whatever.
 
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