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What happens when men prefer porn?

i guess i take issue with equating porn with BoB’s. one is watching, the other - isn’t. on the other hand, if you’re not sure what to do, i suppose porn can have an educational benefit. and if you watch long enough, maybe you’ll get up the courage to try more than your hand at it.

edit: on a more serious note, for any men out there who think what would make you happy doesn’t exist, may i respectfully suggest, you may be looking in the wrong places. broaden your horizons. say how you feel, and say it to someone who looks you in the eye when you speak and is listening. reciprocity. just like you, we exist.
 
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Reli said:
Whether or not misogynistic thoughts are on the rise, misogynistic posts and statements definitely are. Social media and Youtube have amplified those voices, as have certain political movements.
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They've also amplified the voices that see misogyny everywhere.
 
So . . . . . . . if an artificial intelligence is used to generate pornography, is the product actually pornographic?

Every place I look are brave, new, unexplored worlds.
 
Reli said:
If there was no benefit to LTRs, our species would have evolved away from them a long time ago, but we haven't.

Yes, the under-40 crowd doesn't enter LTRs as much as previous generations, but I blame that on technology rather than some sudden realization that LTRs are a bad idea. Technology has led to the rise of the red-pill, black-pill, and wannabe alpha-bro communities that try to make men feel macho for staying single. In reality they're just justifying being emotionally lazy and misogynistic.

Technology has also allowed women to juggle several suitors, hookups, simps, cucks, sugar daddies, and everything in between, reducing the desire for an LTR.
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We have a big problem with dating/relationships in the west and many other countries are screwed as well such as China.

Generally, most women are going after the top 20% of men? And maybe more like top 5% of men. Kind of always been this way. Especially to sleep with him, then find a cuck to marry and divorce him later and take child support and alimony. Nature is cruel, most men are invisible to most women. If the women doesn't like the guy more than the guy likes the woman, I think the relationship is doomed. She most be the adorer and the guy must be the adored. Women have much higher standards and understandably.

Here's a few of the issues. It might look like I'm blaming women, but men are at fault too. I have no answers, just a few points.

Porn

Videogames

Simps

Social Media - Women get a ton of attention from simps, over-inflating their sense of worth, and also compare their life to other women that have a "higher status" guy. Also, women are getting flown out to rich men's houses all over the world. So now a man isn't competing with other men in the local area, he's competing with men from all over the world.

Women earning more money - I'm not against it, great for women, but now women are more independent and don't rely on men for financial security. Allso due to society don't need a man for physical protection. Imagine just 100 years ago, the average woman depended on a man for protection, so she had no choice but to "settle".

Hypergamy

Feminism

Promiscuous young women that sleep with lots of men, they become alpha-widowed and can never be satisfied with a man on their level after that, unable to pair bond. The more men she sleeps with, the more likely she is to get divorced if she chooses to marry someday. They think just because a man that's more attractive than them sleeps with them, that they are on his "level". Major delusion.

Marriage laws

Bay Area - A tougher dating market for "average" men. Plus women are a little more feminist/masculine/independent/promiscuous here.

Men not earning enough money. Ironically women want to earn as much as men but they still want a man that earns more than they do.
 
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Pushrod said:
So . . . . . . . if an artificial intelligence is used to generate pornography, is the product actually pornographic?

Every place I look are brave, new, unexplored worlds.
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I don't understand the intention or relevance of this question.
 
Melissa said:
ya know that there are promiscuous men out there as well.
stop slut shaming please.
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No disagreements on my part. My little sister has a category of stories I tell her she calls "strange girls in dark places". She's not wrong. My response is like, stuff happens sometimes... I give her the main details mostly what led to... things...
 
Melissa said:
ya know that there are promiscuous men out there as well.
stop slut shaming please.
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What’s wrong with slut-shaming? I actually think it would help society.

Not saying I do it, I try not to judge, I’ll just avoid women like that. I like women that only have slept together in long-term relationships.

Why are more men single? Because a higher amount of women are sleeping with the same few men especially when they’re younger.
 
eBay Mike said:
We have a big problem with dating/relationships in the west and many other countries are screwed as well such as China.

Generally, most women are going after the top 20% of men? And maybe more like top 5% of men. Kind of always been this way. Especially to sleep with him, then find a cuck to marry and divorce him later and take child support and alimony. Nature is cruel, most men are invisible to most women. If the women doesn't like the guy more than the guy likes the woman, I think the relationship is doomed. She most be the adorer and the guy must be the adored. Women have much higher standards and understandably.

Here's a few of the issues. It might look like I'm blaming women, but men are at fault too. I have no answers, just a few points.

Porn

Videogames

Simps

Social Media - Women get a ton of attention from simps, over-inflating their sense of worth, and also compare their life to other women that have a "higher status" guy. Also, women are getting flown out to rich men's houses all over the world. So now a man isn't competing with other men in the local area, he's competing with men from all over the world.

Women earning more money - I'm not against it, great for women, but now women are more independent and don't rely on men for financial security. Allso due to society don't need a man for physical protection. Imagine just 100 years ago, the average woman depended on a man for protection, so she had no choice but to "settle".

Hypergamy

Feminism

Promiscuous young women that sleep with lots of men, they become alpha-widowed and can never be satisfied with a man on their level after that, unable to pair bond. The more men she sleeps with, the more likely she is to get divorced if she chooses to marry someday. They think just because a man that's more attractive than them sleeps with them, that they are on his "level". Major delusion.

Marriage laws

Bay Area - A tougher dating market for "average" men. Plus women are a little more feminist/masculine/independent/promiscuous here.

Men not earning enough money. Ironically women want to earn as much as men but they still want a man that earns more than they do.
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What the fuck is this? You been listening to too much andrew taint/jordan peterson.
 
eBay Mike said:
Why? Is any type shaming always weird to you? Not saying I like to shame people, just curious.
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Yup. Weird and bad. Don't yuck other folks' yums. We are all different.

(Edit: clearly this doesn't extend to sociopathic or predatory behaviors. Porn consumption is neither.)

eBay Mike said:
What’s wrong with slut-shaming? I actually think it would help society.

Not saying I do it, I try not to judge, I’ll just avoid women like that. I like women that only have slept together in long-term relationships.

Why are more men single? Because a higher amount of women are sleeping with the same few men especially when they’re younger.
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"I try not to judge. But why is judging bad?"

Why do you try not to judge? That is why judging is bad.
 
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eBay Mike said:
We have a big problem with dating/relationships in the west and many other countries are screwed as well such as China.

Generally, most women are going after the top 20% of men? And maybe more like top 5% of men. Kind of always been this way. Especially to sleep with him, then find a cuck to marry and divorce him later and take child support and alimony. Nature is cruel, most men are invisible to most women. If the women doesn't like the guy more than the guy likes the woman, I think the relationship is doomed. She most be the adorer and the guy must be the adored. Women have much higher standards and understandably.

Here's a few of the issues. It might look like I'm blaming women, but men are at fault too. I have no answers, just a few points.

Porn

Videogames

Simps

Social Media - Women get a ton of attention from simps, over-inflating their sense of worth, and also compare their life to other women that have a "higher status" guy. Also, women are getting flown out to rich men's houses all over the world. So now a man isn't competing with other men in the local area, he's competing with men from all over the world.

Women earning more money - I'm not against it, great for women, but now women are more independent and don't rely on men for financial security. Allso due to society don't need a man for physical protection. Imagine just 100 years ago, the average woman depended on a man for protection, so she had no choice but to "settle".

Hypergamy

Feminism

Promiscuous young women that sleep with lots of men, they become alpha-widowed and can never be satisfied with a man on their level after that, unable to pair bond. The more men she sleeps with, the more likely she is to get divorced if she chooses to marry someday. They think just because a man that's more attractive than them sleeps with them, that they are on his "level". Major delusion.

Marriage laws

Bay Area - A tougher dating market for "average" men. Plus women are a little more feminist/masculine/independent/promiscuous here.

Men not earning enough money. Ironically women want to earn as much as men but they still want a man that earns more than they do.
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Holy shit, that's so complicated. But on the other hand, if you're lucky enough to fall in love with someone that loves you too, then all those issues will disappear. Love has no formula, and it can't be forced.
 
eBay Mike said:
We have a big problem with dating/relationships in the west and many other countries are screwed as well such as China.

Generally, most women are going after the top 20% of men? And maybe more like top 5% of men. Kind of always been this way. Especially to sleep with him, then find a cuck to marry and divorce him later and take child support and alimony. Nature is cruel, most men are invisible to most women. If the women doesn't like the guy more than the guy likes the woman, I think the relationship is doomed. She most be the adorer and the guy must be the adored. Women have much higher standards and understandably.

Here's a few of the issues. It might look like I'm blaming women, but men are at fault too. I have no answers, just a few points.

Porn

Videogames

Simps

Social Media - Women get a ton of attention from simps, over-inflating their sense of worth, and also compare their life to other women that have a "higher status" guy. Also, women are getting flown out to rich men's houses all over the world. So now a man isn't competing with other men in the local area, he's competing with men from all over the world.

Women earning more money - I'm not against it, great for women, but now women are more independent and don't rely on men for financial security. Allso due to society don't need a man for physical protection. Imagine just 100 years ago, the average woman depended on a man for protection, so she had no choice but to "settle".

Hypergamy

Feminism

Promiscuous young women that sleep with lots of men, they become alpha-widowed and can never be satisfied with a man on their level after that, unable to pair bond. The more men she sleeps with, the more likely she is to get divorced if she chooses to marry someday. They think just because a man that's more attractive than them sleeps with them, that they are on his "level". Major delusion.

Marriage laws

Bay Area - A tougher dating market for "average" men. Plus women are a little more feminist/masculine/independent/promiscuous here.

Men not earning enough money. Ironically women want to earn as much as men but they still want a man that earns more than they do.
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Personally, I think that you're putting too much confidence in what is being said on social media by guys who make a living from telling guys misogynistic messages.
They bring on the women from OnlyFans and use them as an example of how women act and think.

They are using a very small portion of the population to malign the vast majority of women. It's a shitty tactic, but like politics it works.
 
eBay Mike said:
We have a big problem with dating/relationships in the west and many other countries are screwed as well such as China.

Generally, most women are going after the top 20% of men? And maybe more like top 5% of men. Kind of always been this way. Especially to sleep with him, then find a cuck to marry and divorce him later and take child support and alimony. Nature is cruel, most men are invisible to most women. If the women doesn't like the guy more than the guy likes the woman, I think the relationship is doomed. She most be the adorer and the guy must be the adored. Women have much higher standards and understandably.

Here's a few of the issues. It might look like I'm blaming women, but men are at fault too. I have no answers, just a few points.

Porn

Videogames

Simps

Social Media - Women get a ton of attention from simps, over-inflating their sense of worth, and also compare their life to other women that have a "higher status" guy. Also, women are getting flown out to rich men's houses all over the world. So now a man isn't competing with other men in the local area, he's competing with men from all over the world.

Women earning more money - I'm not against it, great for women, but now women are more independent and don't rely on men for financial security. Allso due to society don't need a man for physical protection. Imagine just 100 years ago, the average woman depended on a man for protection, so she had no choice but to "settle".

Hypergamy

Feminism

Promiscuous young women that sleep with lots of men, they become alpha-widowed and can never be satisfied with a man on their level after that, unable to pair bond. The more men she sleeps with, the more likely she is to get divorced if she chooses to marry someday. They think just because a man that's more attractive than them sleeps with them, that they are on his "level". Major delusion.

Marriage laws

Bay Area - A tougher dating market for "average" men. Plus women are a little more feminist/masculine/independent/promiscuous here.

Men not earning enough money. Ironically women want to earn as much as men but they still want a man that earns more than they do.
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You sound like you're getting your views on women's behavior and beliefs from social media instead of directly from them. If women were really going after the top 5% or 20% of men, then why are most of the husbands and long-term boyfriends I know just average-looking guys with average middle-class jobs? Am I supposed to believe their wives/girlfriends just "settled" for them, and that they all have a "Chad" on the side? Come on.

As for the "pair bonding" theory, that's a very self-serving theory for men. I see dudes on Instagram using it to justify shaming women with a "high" bodycount, while claiming men's bodycount doesn't matter. How convenient.

As for women feeding off "simps".......Here's the funny thing about that. They can do that because appearance is usually the biggest (or sometimes even ONLY) thing men look for in a woman. So, girls grow up thinking appearance is their #1 asset to exploit. Not their brain, not their other talents. So if you want women to stop objectifying themselves, maybe start showing them that you value their other qualities.
 
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The term 'Simp' is a shitty term, invented to malign and belittle and it's pretty much always used in shitty contexts.

The real Simps are the ones spreading their misogynist messages. They aren't real men but shitty examples of men who substitute bluster instead of real courage.
 
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back when I was dating, I dated women younger and older than me, "physically attractive" and some who were frankly not very good looking. The "attractive" ones often had baggage of some sort, whereas the not very attractive ones all had wonderful personalities and attitudes. My late uncle used to tease me that I "always go out with the ugly ones". Yeah well, Uncle Frank, I actually went out with the best ones.

I mean no offense to any ladies on the board (or anywhere); beauty is only skin deep.
 
Kind of a funny phrase if you think about it, because it's trying to tell you that beauty goes beyond appearance, but then it's referencing appearance as the meaning of beauty.
 
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