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Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

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Saying you think China is bad isn't racist, is it?

I fail to see how the massage parlor shooting fits the hate crime narrative, especially since it seemed the shooter frequented the places to begin with. Unlikely that that was his motivation, not to mention the workers there are usually not from China.
 
Mean Dad-

Thank you for posting this. It's amazing that people see the evidence right in front of their faces and still refuse to believe it.

Just WOW!!!!!!
 
mrzuzzo said:
Saying you think China is bad isn't racist, is it?

I fail to see how the massage parlor shooting fits the hate crime narrative, especially since it seemed the shooter frequented the places to begin with. Unlikely that that was his motivation, not to mention the workers there are usually not from China.
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See that's the problem with your average redneck, they never bother to make the distinction between Chinese people, Vietnamese people, Thai people, Filipinos, Koreans and so forth. If you get any bunch of these folks from their respective main lands and put them all in a room together they probably wouldn't even get along with each other. Most Americans see all Asians as this one giant monolithic block. Like we all are supposed to be studious, quiet, meek as if somehow we don't have our own views of each other let alone this country. Asian Americans have this unique diaspora issue our mainland brethren don't have deal with back home. Not asian enough to be considered a true asian, not white enough to be accepted into most of mainstream American society. Perhaps that's why our political strength isn't as great as Blacks or Hispanics- we don't have a unifying voice.

But I want to ask anyone here who has a disparaging views of China, have any of you been there? Sure their governments sucks, but have you ever meet a mainland Chinese, and thought "sure I'd love to bash this guys tooth in because his government his evil and was responsible for hiding atrocities and releasing this virus?" Its funny, when we see people on the news like this dude who shot up a massage parlor- immediately, we'll all disassociate with that person and say "oh he's not representative of this community.." Yah of course not. But say I was a mainland chinese person and turned on the TV to see some guy like that, you'd almost think all Americans were out to get all asians.
 
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Well, that post could be used to make a case for a hate crime. Still might be tough. For one, the prosecution would have to prove he was the one who posted that. For another, they'd still have to prove hate as a motivation for the murders.

Ultimately, I don't think it matters much for sentencing, assuming he is convicted. I doubt anyone convicted of murdering 8 people in that manner would ever see any sort of freedom.
 
Agent Orange said:
See that's the problem with your average redneck, they never bother to make the distinction between Chinese people, Vietnamese people, Thai people, Filipinos, Koreas and so forth. If you get any bunch of these folks from their respective main lands and put them all in a room together they probably wouldn't even get along with each other. Most Americans see all Asians as this one giant monolithic block. Like we all are supposed to be studious, quiet, meek as if somehow we don't have our own views of each other let alone this country. Asian Americans have this unique diaspora issue our mainland brethren don't have deal with back home. Not asian enough to be considered a true asian, not white enough to be accepted into most of mainstream American society. Perhaps that's why our political strength isn't as great as Blacks or Hispanics- we don't have a unifying voice.

But I want to ask anyone here who has a disparaging views of China, have any of you been there? Sure their governments sucks, but have you ever meet a mainland Chinese, and thought "sure I'd love to bash this guys tooth in because his government his evil and was responsible for hiding atrocities and releasing this virus?" Its funny, when we see people on the news like this dude who shot up a massage parlor- immediately, we'll all disassociate with that person and say "oh he's not representative of this community.." Yah of course not. But say I was a mainland chinese person and turned on the TV to see some guy like that, you'd almost think all Americans were out to get all asians.
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Great points. :thumbup

People tend to like to group a bunch of people together and to also characterize them all based upon minimal knowledge, mostly what they've 'heard'. These days, that's further screwed up by talking heads pigeonholing groups they have some beef (often paid) with.

To a lesser degree, we see the people of California maligned by talking heads, we see all black people painted with the same negative brush, we saw Indian nationals picked on during and following the gulf war.

Large groups are disparate, not homogenous, in most cases. It's lazy and easier to just paint a whole group with the same brush and not an admirable habit.
 
Beanzy said:
The Atlanta Constitution says the mass murderer is 21 years old and may have a sexual addiction (because he frequented the spas where he shot his victims).

Also the police say he was asked repeatedly if the killings were about race and he supposedly said no. See https://www.ajc.com/news/exclusive-...fore-deadly-spree/FEURWVYBEFBMJP7GLOQ6AQJ27A/
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bojangle said:
FIFY

That these rub and tug massage places are mostly staffed by Asian women doesn't mean the murders were motivated by race.
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100%

The police asked him and he denied a racial motivation to the killings. He’s a documented client of those sex establishments.
Therefore the Occam’s Razor explanation coming to mind is the possibility that he could have been blocked from those establishments, got angry about it, then decided to rampage on them.

Re: The social media post... China (CCP) is a global problem even beyond Covid 19 and that’s a shared sentiment across many demographics.

Had he said “Asians” are the enemy then maybe you can say it was racially motivated in killing the sex workers.
 
Agent Orange said:
See that's the problem with your average redneck, they never bother to make the distinction between Chinese people, Vietnamese people, Thai people, Filipinos, Koreans and so forth. If you get any bunch of these folks from their respective main lands and put them all in a room together they probably wouldn't even get along with each other. Most Americans see all Asians as this one giant monolithic block. Like we all are supposed to be studious, quiet, meek as if somehow we don't have our own views of each other let alone this country. Asian Americans have this unique diaspora issue our mainland brethren don't have deal with back home. Not asian enough to be considered a true asian, not white enough to be accepted into most of mainstream American society. Perhaps that's why our political strength isn't as great as Blacks or Hispanics- we don't have a unifying voice.

But I want to ask anyone here who has a disparaging views of China, have any of you been there? Sure their governments sucks, but have you ever meet a mainland Chinese, and thought "sure I'd love to bash this guys tooth in because his government his evil and was responsible for hiding atrocities and releasing this virus?" Its funny, when we see people on the news like this dude who shot up a massage parlor- immediately, we'll all disassociate with that person and say "oh he's not representative of this community.." Yah of course not. But say I was a mainland chinese person and turned on the TV to see some guy like that, you'd almost think all Americans were out to get all asians.
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Genuinely curious...

Why do you think using the term “Redneck” is appropriate?

The tone of your post comes across as wanting to address ignorance regarding Asians, yet you start of your post with the term Redneck.

Is that the general rule in society now? If we’re addressing the ignorance of a group were given a pass to call them a name?
Therefore, Redneck, ch*nk,wetb*ck, n*gger, etc are fair game to use if they’re acting with ignorance?
 
You're right, my apologies. I shouldn't have to stoop to their level. Your average inbred, uneducated, uncouth, un-traveled, un-worldy American. I hope that clarifies things.
 
Agent Orange said:
You're right, my apologies. I shouldn't have to stoop to their level. Your average inbred, uneducated, uncouth, un-traveled, un-worldy American. I hope that clarifies things.
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Well at least it’s more inclusive of anyone of the “American Diaspora”.
I’ve met many white, brown, yellow, black, and rainbow colored people in America that fit each one of those descriptors.
 
tuxumino said:
OMG can you believe how many times this celebrity uses the "R" word

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I asked a genuine question.

At the end of the day we’ll each choose to do and say what we want.

There’s just an irony in a thread centered around “Anti Asian” Hate and trying to have a mature discussion when someone presenting the ignorance towards Asians case begins by using an ignorant term for another ethnic group.
 
The pretty thing's brother's name is Jed, and he is a fuckin hokie dokie yokel with "REDNECK" tattooed on the side of his forearm.
I am forever and eternally irritated at him for not putting "JEDNECK" and I tell him that whenever I see him.
 
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Climber said:
Great points. :thumbup

People tend to like to group a bunch of people together and to also characterize them all based upon minimal knowledge, mostly what they've 'heard'
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Kinda like female rappers with saucy lyrics? Carry on...
 
poking around the interwebz found more on the "R" word.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redneck_Revolt

The group attributes their use of the word "redneck" to the time of the Coal Wars, a series of labor disputes in the United States occurring from around 1890 to around 1930, when the word became popular among coal-miners.[10] The use of the term is also intended as a form of subversion or reappropriation.[7] The group's name also refers to the 1921 Battle of Blair Mountain[11] and the red bandanas worn by members emulate those worn by striking coal-miners during that conflict.[12] A member has said that the group tries "to acknowledge the ways we've made mistakes and bought into white supremacy and capitalism, but also give ourselves an environment in which it's OK to celebrate redneck culture".[1]

Their political influences include the 19th-century abolitionist John Brown,[13] the Young Patriots Organization[1][5][14][15] the Deacons for Defense and Justice[7] and the Rainbow Coalition, an alliance formed in Chicago in the 1960s between the Black Panther Party, Young Lords and the Young Patriots.[16][17] The group sees itself as part of a tradition of white working-class "rebellion against tyranny and oppression".[13]
 
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