Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

[NSR500]

I remain mystified at the timing of these incidents. I mean, things are lightening up, the checks went out, just what the hell....I saw the latest where the lady beat the guy with her cane, which was awesome. But why.... It's not like it's going to foment civil war for the righties, it's just weird.

It’s been happening for a long time and the only reason IMO on why it’s getting the publicity; is to continue pushing the narrative that “Whiteness” is bad.

Class warfare drives the liberal agenda.

 

[Agent Orange]

I wouldn't be all surprised if there was some sort of weird conspiracy theory going on with these dudes. I mean, if they were stupid enough to storm the capitol believing that the vote was stolen, who knows what else is going through their heads.

 

[NSR500]

If by “these dudes” you mean White guys you’d have bought the media narrative; hook, line, and sinker.

Specific to the SF Bay Area 85% of violence against Asians is Black on Asian.

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/nevi...of-black-on-Asian-violence-is-out-3265760.php

 

[Abacinator]

It’s been happening for a long time and the only reason IMO on why it’s getting the publicity; is to continue pushing the narrative that “Whiteness” is bad.

Class warfare drives the liberal agenda.

 

[Bay Arean]

If by “these dudes” you mean White guys you’d have bought the media narrative; hook, line, and sinker.

Specific to the SF Bay Area 85% of violence against Asians is Black on Asian.

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/nevi...of-black-on-Asian-violence-is-out-3265760.php

Right, that's why your comment about whiteness is bad didn't make sense to me. Is there some extra ideological oomph insofar as sympathy? Maybe.

It's just weird, vague and destabilizing in general. And it's happening here, not necessarilyu the various hotspots of Trumplandia. And I guess in Seattle and Portland, too...This latest incident in the South, to me, is not a part of the urban narrative here, though many want it to be for some kind of consistency. I know, people will get crazy insisting it is, but the dude is a freak, a timebomb. I don't think he saw Channel 2 news footage and decided to go shoot up massage parlors.

 

[Agent Orange]

If by “these dudes” you mean White guys you’d have bought the media narrative; hook, line, and sinker.

Specific to the SF Bay Area 85% of violence against Asians is Black on Asian.

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/nevi...of-black-on-Asian-violence-is-out-3265760.php

Bro, you need a chill pill. Im referring to the redne.... dude who shot up the massage parlor yesterday. As an asian dude here in the Bay Area, I know who are committing the crimes. I've been following them.

 

[NSR500]

Bro, you need a chill pill. Im referring to the redne.... dude who shot up the massage parlor yesterday. As an asian dude here in the Bay Area, I know who are committing the crimes. I've been following them.

Well you said; “Dudes” not “Dude” in the previous post.

 

[Eldritch]

It’s been happening for a long time and the only reason IMO on why it’s getting the publicity; is to continue pushing the narrative that “Whiteness” is bad.

Class warfare drives the liberal agenda.

I have VERY strong suspicions that Chinese social engineering is part of this.

 

[gnahc79]

... "who the heck".. that school is famous from here to SJC as a "good" public high. Ask someone else!!! As for the disparity of numbers, increase to 50% from 33% "enrolled in the District", I presume the same young persons were in the adjacent private/Catholic schools for Elementary and Middle...

Also--"Never knew"--I guess additionally from Stuy High in NYC? ;-)



terrible. Hope they stop that and she sleeps well.
I guess they're preparing her for Lowell, man! I've heard that the cramming for that school is "a bit much".



It is by semi-distance-weighed lottery in SF, TLDR: I think it was made that way for diversity 4.5 decades ago.

I grew up in Ohio for the most part. Not much Asian expectation peer pressures there, so yeah I'm not in tune with the elite public schools . I attended a public high school, typical suburban nearly all white, some Asian, and barely any other minorities. My parents thankfully were not 100% full on like that movie "Try Harder!" for Lowell. Still had expectations though .
I'm more familiar with private schools near San Jose because I had to research it for our kids.

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[tuxumino]

let's not beat around the bush, some wack ass haole nutted up and shot up some Asian massage parlors but not because they were Asian massage parlors. doesn't really matter if it is prosecuted as a hate crime or not he's spending the rest of his life behind bars.

Attacks on elderly people, Asian or not, are despicable. Why do criminals attack the elderly? Cause if you attack that kanaka from Hilo you'll get your ass handed to you.

 

[bojangle]

^^^ Exactly what I said about the suspect not seeing any freedom regardless of any hate crime part of a conviction.

That's the answer he gave and what will be on the record during his trial.

Any other narrative is what you, the media, or anyone else defines is just your POV.

Additionally, there's data that supports a possibility for why Asians were the victims of this crime.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massage_parlor

Outside of Legal Nevada Brothels a plurality of organized sex workers organized in physical buildings are "AMPs" (Asian Massage Parlors). Therefore it is plausible that it is a target of convenience that just happens to be predominantly Asian.
Lastly, just because someone has an "Asian Woman Thing" doesn't make someone a Racist. People are attracted to who and what they're attracted to.

If we're going to have serious conversations about Violent Crime against Asians then we've got to be focused and data driven. We can't just allow ourselves to fall into the Media Trap of false narratives.

There's absolutely a problem in America for Asians and as of this moment with the current evidence, this crime doesn't fit.

Yeah, I tend to agree with this.

You got them a sex toy for self defense?

That was my first thought when I saw that.

Fake

I guess so.. "This is manipulated media. " At least the image, was False:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/robert-long-china-shooting/

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That's exactly why I said the prosecution would have to prove he posted that. Easier said than done. Easy to fake things. And even if he had posted that != the shooting being a hate crime.

 

[bojangle]

We are talking about a District PUBLIC School.

Should your kid not have access to the nearest public school to your house be it Elementary School, Middle School or High School?

There are numerous good reasons for that including easier access that might have kids walking to School in an urban school district rather than taking some form of transportation.

I agree on this very much. We are supposedly trying to create more sustainable and walkable cities....that is, until other agendas take hold. Parents should absolutely be able to send their kids to their nearest public schools.

The only exception, in my mind, would be magnet schools that are in addition to, not instead of, local public schools. There are some great things being done at public magnet schools.

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Captain-who-said-spa-shootings-suspect-had-bad-16036941.php

Success! The captain is now off the case from Georgia.

Well, OK, but he is a captain. He was never really "on the case". He was just serving as the department spokesperson and now someone else will provide media interviews regarding that case.

Sure, that's still a plus.

That took a lot of posts before someone figured it out...

Oh, I got what you were saying.

It’s been happening for a long time and the only reason IMO on why it’s getting the publicity; is to continue pushing the narrative that “Whiteness” is bad.

Class warfare drives the liberal agenda.

But, ummmm....

If by “these dudes” you mean White guys you’d have bought the media narrative; hook, line, and sinker.

Specific to the SF Bay Area 85% of violence against Asians is Black on Asian.

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/nevi...of-black-on-Asian-violence-is-out-3265760.php

What about, ummmm...

 

[NSR500]

But, ummmm....



What about, ummmm...

They’re not contradictory.

There’s an emerging narrative in main stream media emerging trying to blame Anti Asian sentiment on Whiteness and White supremacy.

My second statement wasn’t speaking to the National issue, but specific to the SF Bay Area. I cited an article for convenience, but within the article the 85% can be verified by the City and County crime statistics.

 

[mean dad]

A key piece of data is getting overlooked: "Just the right amount of alcohol."

Probably no need to speculate about what movies she watches or how good her training was.

Just so we're clear, the alcohol didn't give her the feeling of immortality or invulnerability. It loosened her judgment up so she was willing to take a swing, that's all.
I knew her for years and she always carried herself with the self assured confidence of someone that could handle anything life threw at them.

Watching that confidence slip away in an instant was a little bit heartbreaking.

 

[tzrider]

Kev, completely got that.

I hope her confidence returns. The “contest” she had in the bar didn’t represent what she has probably been taught to do in self defense. I imagine there were limits to how much she was willing to injure the guy she hit. She is unlikely to have been trained to slug a guy once in the jaw and then stand there to see what happens. The outcome that night isn’t representative of what she is capable of.

 

[two wheel tramp]

At her request, I have volunteered to teach a Chinese American friend of mine basic firearms safety in the next few weeks. I have advised her against carrying firearms without significant training beyond my informal instruction.

My former landlord (a Chinese man) mentioned he wanted to get a gun during a conversation last year. He told me he was scared for his wife, parents in law and kids.

 

[Climber]

Nobody should have to live in fear of walking around their neighborhood.

We've failed as a society anytime this kind of thing happens.

 

[Eldritch]

My former landlord (a Chinese man) mentioned he wanted to get a gun during a conversation last year. He told me he was scared for his wife, parents in law and kids.

Every American should own firearms and have some basic training in how to use them. Really, this should be part of our Public Education system. It is a civic responsibility as described in the U.S. Constitution. People who do not keep and bear arms in preparation to serve in the militia are the same as people who do not vote.

That being said, people carrying firearms out of fear with minimal training is a recipe for social disaster. Citizens who wish to do their civic duty require not only technical training on the handling and operation of their weapon, but more importantly psychological training in how to interact with your community as an owner of its defense, which requires a greater degree of calm and awareness than your typical less responsible citizen.

Personally, I encourage citizens with such a desire to pursue it in the interest of building a better society, but never without commenting on the responsibility it entails.

 

[GAJ]

Every American should own firearms and have some basic training in how to use them. Really, this should be part of our Public Education system. It is a civic responsibility as described in the U.S. Constitution. People who do not keep and bear arms in preparation to serve in the militia are the same as people who do not vote.

I'm sorry but that is some batshit crazy thinking right there.

 

[two wheel tramp]

Every American should own firearms and have some basic training in how to use them. Really, this should be part of our Public Education system. It is a civic responsibility as described in the U.S. Constitution. People who do not keep and bear arms in preparation to serve in the militia are the same as people who do not vote.

That being said, people carrying firearms out of fear with minimal training is a recipe for social disaster. Citizens who wish to do their civic duty require not only technical training on the handling and operation of their weapon, but more importantly psychological training in how to interact with your community as an owner of its defense, which requires a greater degree of calm and awareness than your typical less responsible citizen.

Personally, I encourage citizens with such a desire to pursue it in the interest of building a better society, but never without commenting on the responsibility it entails.

I used that moment to tell him that I'd had guns in my apartment since the day that I moved it. He seemed surprised but also pleased to learn this.

I love them like family. Maybe I should have them meet me at the range the next time I am in the city for a week or so. Their boys are the same age mine was when he learned to shoot and I have tons and tons of .22 ammo.