Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

[Eldritch]

Who set the table for racial minorities to fight amongst themselves?

We still live in a white supremacy.

 

[Bay Arean]

Speaking o' San Leandro: A FB musician friend of mine was just meeting at San Leandro BART today to busk with another guy and five teens jumped out of a stolen car and tried to mug em just for a knapsack the guitarist was carrying. And they weren't even Asian. Damaged a vintage Harmony archtop too. Not sure if they were trying to play there or going elsewhere...
Public safety freefall.

 

[scootergmc]

A FB musician friend of mine was just meeting at San Leandro BART today to busk with another guy and five teens jumped out of a stolen car and tried to mug em just for a knapsack the guitarist was carrying. And they weren't even Asian. Damaged a vintage Harmony archtop too. Not sure if they were trying to play there or going elsewhere...
Public safety freefall.

Were the teens Asian?

 

[TylerW]

Ya ever take notice that it's only white people who want to refute the claim that the US is a white supremacy?

 

[Bay Arean]

Were the teens Asian?

He's not sayin thus far. He got a pic of the car but I can't see the perps. Apparently they hadn't actually pulled out instruments but were just walking by. I misunderstood at first.

 

[Eldritch]

Ya ever take notice that it's only white people who want to refute the claim that the US is a white supremacy?

But it is not?

Do you want links? Shit, Candace Owen has built a whole career out of it.

 

[Kurosaki]

Candace Owens is an Uncle Tom.

 

[TylerW]

But it is not?

Do you want links? Shit, Candace Owen has built a whole career out of it.

LMK when you find a POC who agrees with anything Candace Owens says.

 

[Eldritch]

Candace Owens is an Uncle Tom.

Ahh, yes, race traitors. That is usually a term from someone with a positive view on the truth of the human species.

Do you want me to point out some more that have not joined whatever race war you are advocating for?

The very notion that in a nation where a Black Man has recently been president, where the Black Community has equal representation in Federal Government, where black men operate on the highest legal bench in our nation, have been secretary of state, serve as police officers who enforce the law on white citizens, etc. and on, and on, and on, is a, "White Supremacy," is either ignorant of what that ACTUALLY looks like or is to trying to change the definition of the term. Jim Crow ended a whole lifetime ago.

Being white is nothing but a loosely defined skin color. It is not a language, it is not a style of dress, music, or education, or system of bureaucracy. It is not an address, or an income bracket. It is not a legal status.

We did for a very unfortunately long time in this country have a nation polluted by a system that required White Supremacy, but that time passed before I was even born.

 

[JesasaurusRex]

I don't see eye to eye with her much from the little I've seen of her but I agree with her stance that fatherless homes is the biggest detriment to Black America.

Edit
I will add that the reason for this is largely up for debate.

 

[Eldritch]

LMK when you find a POC who agrees with anything Candace Owens says.

Do you want me to post up a long list of Black Republicans? Why?

Let's Recap, shall we?

T: America is a White Supremacy.
E: "Facepalm"
T: Only White People deny it.
E: Gives example of professional POC WHite Supremacy denier
T: No POC believes her
JR: POC literally comes in from our own community within 7 minutes and validates some of her nonsense.

This dogmatic crap you're spewing just undermines the deep need we have to discuss problems with racism, community, justice, and unity in this country. It should not be so fucking hard to admit that we can have problems with inter-ethnic relations in this country without it being Dachau.

I don't see eye to eye with her much from the little I've seen of her but I agree with her stance that fatherless homes is the biggest detriment to Black America.

Edit
I will add that the reason for this is largely up for debate.

Yeah, I'm not trying to throw her up as a person to follow as a genius either, she does have some good things to say, but I think more when she was younger, and now seems to have fallen into that whole Political Talking head media lifestyle, so her dialogue doesn't strike me as particularly honest. She is just another Rachel Maddow or Rush Limbaugh now. Making money off of stirring up the masses, nevertheless she stands as a bluntly obvious case to my point.

The kind of on my side or you're a neo-nazi, all or nothing dogma is exactly WHY the last President had such a surprising increase in voters from the BIPOC community in the last election. We need to stop with the dogmatic ranting and finger pointing and have more real and honest conversations with accountability all around like real neighbors are supposed to do.

 

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Candace Owens is an Uncle Tom.

She’s kinda hot though

 

[Kurosaki]

Ahh, yes, race traitors. That is usually a term from someone with a positive view on the truth of the human species.

Do you want me to point out some more that have not joined whatever race war you are advocating for?

The very notion that in a nation where a Black Man has recently been president, where the Black Community has equal representation in Federal Government, where black men operate on the highest legal bench in our nation, have been secretary of state, serve as police officers who enforce the law on white citizens, etc. and on, and on, and on, is a, "White Supremacy," is either ignorant of what that ACTUALLY looks like or is to trying to change the definition of the term. Jim Crow ended a whole lifetime ago.

Being white is nothing but a loosely defined skin color. It is not a language, it is not a style of dress, music, or education, or system of bureaucracy. It is not an address, or an income bracket. It is not a legal status.

We did for a very unfortunately long time in this country have a nation polluted by a system that required White Supremacy, but that time passed before I was even born.

I'm open to the topics of conversation you're bringing up but not with Candace Owens.

She parrots talking points in an Uncle Tom fashion for clout and does not do much else.

Also, please do not point to Obama being president as proof that white supremacy is not a major problem still in America.

 

[Eldritch]

I'm open to the topics of conversation you're bringing up but not with Candace Owens.

She parrots talking points in an Uncle Tom fashion for clout and does not do much else.

Also, please do not point to Obama being president as proof that white supremacy is not a major problem still in America.

She was simply an example to prove my point, but Uncle Tom is a name no different than any other racial slur. I would appreciate it if you would reconsider your position on how she self identifies unless you do believe in some kind of race war, in which case I guess it makes sense for you.

I'm certainly not harping on Obama as an end to anything, I think the equal representation in Congress is a stronger case as is the example of BIPOC Law Enforcement enforcing the law on White Citizens.

I feel like most the people who like to use White Supremacy so casually really have never known any white supremacists very well and don't honestly understand their mindset.

It seems to me they know the term is shocking, so they throw it at every misc. problematic boomer who isn't woke as if it was the same thing, but they have never had a conversation with a neo-nazi about what they believe in and why.

She’s kinda hot though

Oh dude. So hot.

 

[NSR500]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B08SGWFWY2/ref=share_ios_movie


Call them what you want. They do have a point with their BLEXIT movement and what they present in the documentary.
Unfortunately, it's easier for the plurality of the ignorant to march in the street in the name of dead criminals. It's also easier to blame White People than to take up responsibility for your own outcomes.
It's very likely why the race grifters are targeting the Asian community and trying to get them to embrace a victim mindset. Asians destroy their race narratives having built the railroad, working their way out of the fields, and recovering from internment.
Even in the face of social challenges they build businesses, educate themselves, gain professional careers, maintain a strong culture, and a strong nuclear family.

 

[Kurosaki]

She was simply an example to prove my point, but Uncle Tom is a name no different than any other racial slur. I would appreciate it if you would reconsider your position on how she self identifies unless you do believe in some kind of race war, in which case I guess it makes sense for you.

I'm certainly not harping on Obama as an end to anything, I think the equal representation in Congress is a stronger case as is the example of BIPOC Law Enforcement enforcing the law on White Citizens.

I feel like most the people who like to use White Supremacy so casually really have never known any white supremacists very well and don't honestly understand their mindset.

It seems to me they know the term is shocking, so they throw it at every misc. problematic boomer who isn't woke as if it was the same thing, but they have never had a conversation with a neo-nazi about what they believe in and why.

I agree with you about racial slurs and I do not like using the term Uncle Tom. I don't throw it around lightly. Or use it casually. But Candace Owens is completely an Uncle Tom.

 

[Kurosaki]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B08SGWFWY2/ref=share_ios_movie


Call them what you want. They do have a point with their BLEXIT movement and what they present in the documentary.
Unfortunately, it's easier for the plurality of the ignorant to march in the street in the name of dead criminals. It's also easier to blame White People than to take up responsibility for your own outcomes.
It's very likely why the race grifters are targeting the Asian community and trying to get them to embrace a victim mindset. Asians destroy their race narratives having built the railroad, working their way out of the fields, and recovering from internment.
Even in the face of social challenges they build businesses, educate themselves, gain professional careers, maintain a strong culture, and a strong nuclear family.

You've spent a lot of time in this thread speaking about injustice against the Asian community that comes from black folk but now you're talking like an authority on black culture.

Cool. That makes sense.

 

[littlebeast]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B08SGWFWY2/ref=share_ios_movie


Call them what you want. They do have a point with their BLEXIT movement and what they present in the documentary.
Unfortunately, it's easier for the plurality of the ignorant to march in the street in the name of dead criminals. It's also easier to blame White People than to take up responsibility for your own outcomes.
It's very likely why the race grifters are targeting the Asian community and trying to get them to embrace a victim mindset. Asians destroy their race narratives having built the railroad, working their way out of the fields, and recovering from internment.
Even in the face of social challenges they build businesses, educate themselves, gain professional careers, maintain a strong culture, and a strong nuclear family.

interesting comment. no small air of superiority.

my impression is that that’s pretty simply what most disadvantaged people are asking for. although i’m white - and have never experienced a race disadvantage, i have experienced other types (being a woman and not a member of the ‘boys club’, didn’t attend an elite school, etc.). early in my career was actually told after a presentation i made what ‘score’ they gave me - not on the material or my expertise - on my FUCKING LOOKS. they gave me a 7. when i got pissed, they were like - hey, it’s the highest score we’ve ever given, and you’re a real solid 7 - it’s a great score. fuckers were totally clueless about what pissed me off. it’s just been one long slog through-out my career to be taken seriously. and i’ll tell you what - i got to the point where it’s payback time. all those clueless motherfuckers are seriously fucked. i didn’t set out to become militant about it - but i damn sure am now. and i’ve got a mountain of grievances to unload on them. and the tools to do it with. have laid in wait a very long time for this.

think about it - that mountain of grievance. this is us taking our definition of responsibility. something tells me you’re not going to like it.

 

[norcalAF]

interesting comment. no small air of superiority.

my impression is that that’s pretty simply what most disadvantaged people are asking for. although i’m white - and have never experienced a race disadvantage, i have experienced other types (being a woman and not a member of the ‘boys club’, didn’t attend an elite school, etc.). early in my career was actually told after a presentation i made what ‘score’ they gave me - not on the material or my expertise - on my FUCKING LOOKS. they gave me a 7. when i got pissed, they were like - hey, it’s the highest score we’ve ever given, and you’re a real solid 7 - it’s a great score. fuckers were totally clueless about what pissed me off. it’s just been one long slog through-out my career to be taken seriously. and i’ll tell you what - i got to the point where it’s payback time. all those clueless motherfuckers are seriously fucked. i didn’t set out to become militant about it - but i damn sure am now. and i’ve got a mountain of grievances to unload on them. and the tools to do it with. have laid in wait a very long time for this.

think about it - that mountain of grievance. this is us taking our definition of responsibility. something tells me you’re not going to like it.

Well if you are limiting your revenge/payback to those individuals that actually wronged you, then I can support some justice being dished out. If you are talking about burning everyone who simply looks like the ones who wronged you, then I would think that has nothing to do with justice.

My personal thoughts are the sooner we all get to treating each person as an individual with gifts and unique perspective regardless of external attributes, the better we will be as a society, a nation, and a world. Unfortunately that is a hard ask with how profitable it is to cause societal squabbles .

 

[Eldritch]

I agree with you about racial slurs and I do not like using the term Uncle Tom. I don't throw it around lightly. Or use it casually. But Candace Owens is completely an Uncle Tom.

LOL, holy crap, she has really gone off the rails. I went and checked her out again, I haven't paid that much attention to her since she first started coming out in like 2017, 2018, because I tend to just turn off dogma spewers, but I looked at her again based on your feedback and have to say, she really is turning into a Jr. Sean Hannity. That is really too bad.

I think a lot of her early message around Blexit was pretty good.