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Golden State Warriors 2017-2018

OK, well let's hope he's impartially terrible tonight.

I can agree with this. And yes, there is a bit of solace that CP isn't wild about him or that Foster supposedly is anti-home team.

The main thing is that the NBA has allowed one of their refs to become this notorious then hand him one of the most anticipated games of the year. There are others refs who could have been given this. But this guy is notorious for a few specific Warrior games over the years, so to not think the NBA knows about it is naive. Frickin Smeagol strikes again. Silver is getting even on the whole world for getting knocked around as a kid. And to think people hate Goodell.

It seems like we shouldn't even know these guys names.
 
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It seems like we shouldnt even know these guys names.

Bingo. The only time you should talk about a sports official is when they are retiring and you just realize there were there for 30 or 40 yrs. Good reffs, should not get noticed.
 
Bingo. The only time you should talk about a sports official is when they are retiring and you just realize there were there for 30 or 40 yrs. Good reffs, should not get noticed.

Agreed. The refs have a union. Perhaps it's not easy to discharge one of them, as it can be tough for other employers.
 
Agreed. The refs have a union. Perhaps it's not easy to discharge one of them, as it can be tough for other employers.
If that was the case, they could have just not assigned him to this game or others in the series. Let's face it, if the fans know about this ref I can guarantee that the league knows about him as well. Perhaps they don't see him as a total negative to the league, imagine all of the extra talk (about the league) that happens when he pulls shit like what is mentioned in here. Even negative press can be positive, in terms of revenue, under some circumstances.

I know that you aren't so naive that you don't understand that there are 'ways' to do just about anything you want as long as you are smart about it.
 
If that was the case, they could have just not assigned him to this game or others in the series. Let's face it, if the fans know about this ref I can guarantee that the league knows about him as well. Perhaps they don't see him as a total negative to the league, imagine all of the extra talk (about the league) that happens when he pulls shit like what is mentioned in here. Even negative press can be positive, in terms of revenue, under some circumstances.

I know that you aren't so naive that you don't understand that there are 'ways' to do just about anything you want as long as you are smart about it.

Shortsightedness by wealthy institutions sure is an epidemic.

NBA Brass: Lets drum up some drama to get more eyeballs!

Slightly Smarter NBA Brass: won't that undermine the legitimacy of our league and drive fans away if we continue to do it?

NBA Brass: Huuuuu????
 
If that was the case, they could have just not assigned him to this game or others in the series. Let's face it, if the fans know about this ref I can guarantee that the league knows about him as well. Perhaps they don't see him as a total negative to the league, imagine all of the extra talk (about the league) that happens when he pulls shit like what is mentioned in here. Even negative press can be positive, in terms of revenue, under some circumstances.

I know that you aren't so naive that you don't understand that there are 'ways' to do just about anything you want as long as you are smart about it.

The NBA doesn't want a sweep or quick series. Rockets vs Warriors is a cash cow if it goes 7 games. Game 7 would be damn near super bowl ratings.

They know his history with the Warriors and track record. He actually gives road teams more leeway and is harder on home teams. It will be interesting.

I can see Draymond and CP3 both getting techs tonight, they're both hot heads and Scott Foster is a control freak.
 
The NBA doesn't want a sweep or quick series. Rockets vs Warriors is a cash cow if it goes 7 games. Game 7 would be damn near super bowl ratings.

They know his history with the Warriors and track record. He actually gives road teams more leeway and is harder on home teams. It will be interesting.

I can see Draymond and CP3 both getting techs tonight, they're both hot heads and Scott Foster is a control freak.

Hey, is Foster the guy who called delay of game on Draymond for hanging on the rim against Cavs, then on next Game, LeBRon hung on the rim and looked around? This was series that Dubs lost.
 
If that was the case, they could have just not assigned him to this game or others in the series. Let's face it, if the fans know about this ref I can guarantee that the league knows about him as well. Perhaps they don't see him as a total negative to the league, imagine all of the extra talk (about the league) that happens when he pulls shit like what is mentioned in here. Even negative press can be positive, in terms of revenue, under some circumstances.

I know that you aren't so naive that you don't understand that there are 'ways' to do just about anything you want as long as you are smart about it.

I don't really know what to say. I mean, I don't really know what you are implying, so it's hard to respond.

Anyway, like online poker and whether it's rigged, accusations with any other reputable league, I just can't get over the risk/incentive. OK, an extra game in an occasional big series gets the league money, but if solid evidence EVER came out of any fixing, rigging, extended series, whatever we call it, the league is done.

With online poker (I play often), there are just UNREAL bad beats that occur (95% hands that lose on the river, after players shove the turn). In one night, this can happen multiple times. But, if ever it was conclusively shown the software was rigged in ANY way, it's the end of that company.

Also, are the owners and teams complicit? I can't imagine the athletes being so. If the owners or team management were somehow complicit, well...would they really risk a game 7 loss, after artificially extending the series?

As much as I think about egregious calls, just like I think about ridiculous bad beat poker losses, I just can't conclude anything is rigged (and, there's never any evidence that comes close to being solid).

Oh, I also wonder, like with 9/11 conspiracy stuff, why is there not a SINGLE whistleblower? Allegations of bias, fixed games, extended series, etc. have been around a long time; why not a SINGLE whistleblower or piece of solid evidence?
 
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Anyway, like online poker and whether it's rigged, accusations with any other reputable league, I just can't get over the risk/incentive. OK, an extra game in an occasional big series gets the league money, but if solid evidence EVER came out of any fixing, rigging, extended series, whatever we call it, the league is done.

So besides the ref who went to jail for 2 years for just that?
 
So besides the ref who went to jail for 2 years for just that?

The one instance that we all know about? Sure, it's questionable whether the full truth or extent ever came out, but it was determined he acted alone, right?

For me, it's beyond a major stretch to go from Donaghy to some systemic rigging (and again, what do people envision? Team involvement? Player involvement? Directive from league, or refs being bought or "encouraged" to make certain calls, or...?).
 
"If solid evidence EVER came out"


- A ref literally went to jail for fixing games


but besides that!
 
"If solid evidence EVER came out"


- A ref literally went to jail for fixing games


but besides that!

Fine, more than one, isolated instance involving a rogue ref (acknowledge possibility of greater extent). You knew what I meant.

Maybe I should ask...was there league involvement? Do you think there's some sort of wrongdoing today? By refs, only? League/team/players?
 
I assume no complaints about reffing on Draymond so far? He's getting away with a LOT.
 
Ref's making their presence felt.

The screen dryamond put on Ariza was 100% clean.
 
I assume no complaints about reffing on Draymond so far? He's getting away with a LOT.

Well there was the technical at a whole minute or two into the game...

He continues to show that he's an absolute idiot who has apparently never learned a thing, then bitches at the ref after pointlessly shoving Harden.

Dumb. Just dumb.
 
pwned

WTF Draymond?!? That was uncalled for, worth a Flagrant. Note that Harden shoved Iguodala at half court and there wasn't even a whistle.

Nobody likes the shitty Houston style of play, not TNT play by play guys, not TNT halftime guys, not fans. Shitty iso ball. Enjoy your shot clock violations!
 
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