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Hip Hop: What the Hell Happened??!

Jeezy EP not that long ago was really good, yo gotti LP. Jfc ur really upping my post count here trying to remember all the good music that's been released.

Embarrassed to say i really liked the lil uzi vert album. Gotten a ton of play back from me. The deluxe version.
 
Johndicezx9 said:
That movie was sad... like old yearbook sad.

Even worse, “Heavy Metal Parking Lot”.
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Oh man, heavy metal parking lot is a cringe fest.

I skimmed the wiki for that other movie and I'm wondering how Megadeth fit in :laughing
 
Since I'm a musician, it's hard for me to listen to rap sometimes and think that anything talented was done by the people on the microphone side. Not always the case, but certainly most of the time. From a pure musical talent standpoint, I do not and likely will not understand it. Drum machines have a learning curve, as does Autotune, but it's not hard for someone to read the manual and figure it out in an afternoon and be "writing" songs by the evening. Real music takes real instruments IMO, not sampling, drum machines and spoken-word lyrics. I do very much appreciate "Old School" (funk and old "rap") music as that was made with real instruments by musicians, not some hacks with a label overpaying a producer to make them sound "hot". :dunno
 
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Kornholio said:
Since I'm a musician, it's hard for me to listen to rap sometimes and think that anything talented was done by the people on the microphone side. Not always the case, but certainly most of the time. From a pure musical talent standpoint, I do not and likely will not understand it. Drum machines have a learning curve, as does Autotune, but it's not hard for someone to read the manual and figure it out in an afternoon and be "writing" songs by the evening. Real music takes real instruments IMO, not sampling, drum machines and spoken-word lyrics. I do very much appreciate "Old School" (funk and old "rap") music as that was made with real instruments by musicians, not some hacks with a label overpaying a producer to make them sound "hot". :dunno
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As a classically trained musician growing up as well, I'll continue to disagree...

... In regards to rap/hip hop. and what you think is "real music".

A lot of music, pop. rock. metal. punk rock, techno, trance, house, country, etc they came from really old school African-inspiration, with beats and rhythms that are used constantly. As do/did rap music and hip hop culture.

If you don't understand that, that's fine.

You don't have to understand it. Maybe that music is not for you. And that's okay. There's genres I don't like. But I don't say they aren't 'real music'.

This is coming from me, a person who is not really a huge proponent of rap/hip hop, but I know the history.
 
I took all the music classes in college too, bro. I know the history and the reality is that the current iteration of rap music has little in common with African culture and more to do with African-American culture in the United States. It's still excessive post-production modified shit that's mass produced for the masses. The "talent" taken to make it is minimal and you don't have to classically trained musician to see and understand that.
 
Kornholio said:
I took all the music classes in college too, bro. I know the history and the reality is that the current iteration of rap music has little in common with African culture and more to do with African-American culture in the United States. It's still excessive post-production modified shit that's mass produced for the masses. The "talent" taken to make it is minimal and you don't have to classically trained musician to see and understand that.
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You must have missed something then. Because that is a completely unfair and inaccurate assessment.

You're talking production and post production products.

Have you ever been to an open mic night and some random local guy or lady has some solid rhymes to speak, even in acaplella? I've been to open mic nights and listened to rappers who were on point, even with solid 4 on the floor rhythm in their words. Or other rhythmic preferences.

Sometimes they suck. (they usually suck) But sometimes they are very on point. And to tell me that's not real music?

You are really good guy, as I've known in the years I've been on BARF, but you might need to expand your horizons a bit, brotha.
 
Kornholio said:
Since I'm a musician, it's hard for me to listen to rap sometimes and think that anything talented was done by the people on the microphone side. Not always the case, but certainly most of the time. From a pure musical talent standpoint, I do not and likely will not understand it. Drum machines have a learning curve, as does Autotune, but it's not hard for someone to read the manual and figure it out in an afternoon and be "writing" songs by the evening. Real music takes real instruments IMO, not sampling, drum machines and spoken-word lyrics. I do very much appreciate "Old School" (funk and old "rap") music as that was made with real instruments by musicians, not some hacks with a label overpaying a producer to make them sound "hot". :dunno
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Labels pushing acts that aren't any good is def not limited to a genre lol
 
Sorry but I cannot point to rap music as whole and say it’s all post production talent that gets it done.

Pop music for the past decade or so could pretty much all be done on a laptop. A pro song writer comes in, writes some corny shit to a catchy hook and the rest is all synthetic.

However, it’s undeniable that a lot of the rhythms used in rap music are of African and/or Middle Eastern origin. They are also used in rock and metal in some cases.

I am not a rap enthusiast but I can’t flatly say it’s not music. There is a lot of garbage from other genres out right now and rap is not carrying the suck flag.
 
aminalmutha said:
Sorry but I cannot point to rap music as whole and say it’s all post production talent that gets it done.

Pop music for the past decade or so could pretty much all be done on a laptop. A pro song writer comes in, writes some corny shit to a catchy hook and the rest is all synthetic.

However, it’s undeniable that a lot of the rhythms used in rap music are of African and/or Middle Eastern origin. They are also used in rock and metal in some cases.

I am not a rap enthusiast but I can’t flatly say it’s not music. There is a lot of garbage from other genres out right now and rap is not carrying the suck flag.
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Showdown. Main floor. Faces. We Will settle this.

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