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Is holding hands in public important part of a relationship..?

Lester Green said:
Showing affection for your sig other, i.e. holding hands, occasional kiss is totally acceptable in public.. but if you have to fondle, suck face, and grope each other in public that just shows insecurity on one or both parts.
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For some, or it could simply be great affection for each other. :thumbup
 
While I simply don't feel the need to hold hands, I think the actual issue is being in a different page than your SO.
 
SpeedyCorky said:
Violet and i hold hands in public all the time, most of the time - and uh, sometimes a whole lot more... it would feel REALLY weird not to. and frankly, i cant see being in a successful, meaningful relationship with a woman - and not holding hands on the regular.

i dunno tho, maybe some of these new age Americanized women are so awesomely independent that they dont want to hold hands; or see it as weak or whatever.

fuck. that. mess.
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Uhm... wut?? Since when does being an "independent" woman mean that we don't want to hold hands? How does having your own opinion and supporting yourself have anything to do with being in love and holding hands? That's just weird.
 
Lester Green said:
I always get a chuckle at the super needy and clingy boyfriend who can't let his girl mingle on her own.
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Or the overprotective/possessive boyfriend boyfriend who suddenly grows alert and attentive and pulls his girl closer to him when he catches you watching. :rofl
 
Hand holding early on.

The distance exponentially grows once you're married. I'm up to about 10 feet now.
 
kevin 714 said:
Yeah but don't both y'all go side action all the time? :laughing


I'd be holding my wife's hand too of with the other she was pointing out chicks I get to nail
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My guess is that they still hold hands because they can be completely honest and open with each other even on the most taboo of subjects.
 
Gixxergirl1000 said:
Uhm... wut?? Since when does being an "independent" woman mean that we don't want to hold hands? How does having your own opinion and supporting yourself have anything to do with being in love and holding hands? That's just weird.
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I dunno since when. Just my observation that all the financially independent women i've dated (and its been a few), have been that they arnt as cool with public displays of affection (PDA). just to hazard a guess, maybe with financial independence in women, there also seems to come a independence of mind - to me it comes across a lot like "I got money so I dont need a man". Some outright seem to not even WANT a man. Once *most* women get ahold of *real* money, it instantly turns to "no man is good enough for me"; likely because they are so independent and financially successful, that they require a man who is equally (or likely more so) as such - and anyone who is not - gets labeled not good enough. consequently most of these women are self absorbed, dont want to seem "weak" in public, so they are usually less OK with PDAs - they just cant seem to give themselves to their man... most end up in unsuccessful relationships, and in the end, end up alone. I see it A LOT. a lot.

most of (i'm talkin' VAST majority) financially independent older women I know, are single (and/or have NEVER had a more than a couple year relationship with a guy), my mom included. All the moms of all the girls i've ever dated included, minus Violet, but even her mom is divorced and has had time to have 1 relationship beyond that marriage - a relationship that failed, largely in part due to money disagreements (the guy not 'having enough'), big shocker there! :rolleyes

come to think of it, I dont think i've ever met a financially independent (and i'm not talking paycheck to paycheck, i'm talking $70k/yr or more) woman who was in a successful long term relationship, AND was totally down with PDAs. are they thinking that some 'better catch' might be watching and they want to appear single?! i dunno, hopefully its just a lack of life experience problem on my end; i'm sure they are out there.... just seems few and far between.

A bit off subject, but while we're here - IMO, when America moved into the territory that women were forced to work b/c the man couldnt earn enough to pay for mortgage, kids, food, etc - the male to female relationship structure lost A LOT. In Mexico and other counties where the women still stay at home and watch the kids and clean and make food; the women are totally (and i mean 100%) OK and happy with that. they are happy to support the family in that way, and the union and agreements between the male and female role are clear. here in the great ol' US of A, when women work and earn real money, their expectations seem to change, and the role of male and female along with it. and with that change of role, PDAs seem to get left behind. Wish I could tell you why, its a pretty sad state of affairs.
 
Hey Charlie.
Morning coffee in hand, I am reading your post and before I delve into what I hope will be a thought provoking discussion with you I first want to know-is the above post a true reflection of what you believe to be true?
 
i'm afraid so :/


just what i've observed in my life. maybe its wrong, I hope it to be, but SURE doesnt seem that way. Maybe i'm totally off base for bringing it up - perhaps this is shit that just men talk about among themselves (and generally agree upon), but is a subject that few women hear from the male perspective, i dunno - but time and time again examples have presented themselves to me, and the pattern seems pretty clear
 
Ok. I wanted to make sure your thoughts adequately reflect what is your experience in the world.

I am off to the gym and will continue this later in the day if/when I have time.............

Love,
Melissa
 
SpeedyCorky said:
I dunno since when. Just my observation that all the financially independent women i've dated (and its been a few), have been that they arnt as cool with public displays of affection (PDA). just to hazard a guess, maybe with financial independence in women, there also seems to come a independence of mind - to me it comes across a lot like "I got money so I dont need a man". Some outright seem to not even WANT a man. Once *most* women get ahold of *real* money, it instantly turns to "no man is good enough for me"; likely because they are so independent and financially successful, that they require a man who is equally (or likely more so) as such - and anyone who is not - gets labeled not good enough. consequently most of these women are self absorbed, dont want to seem "weak" in public, so they are usually less OK with PDAs - they just cant seem to give themselves to their man... most end up in unsuccessful relationships, and in the end, end up alone. I see it A LOT. a lot.

most of (i'm talkin' VAST majority) financially independent older women I know, are single (and/or have NEVER had a more than a couple year relationship with a guy), my mom included. All the moms of all the girls i've ever dated included, minus Violet, but even her mom is divorced and has had time to have 1 relationship beyond that marriage - a relationship that failed, largely in part due to money disagreements (the guy not 'having enough'), big shocker there! :rolleyes

come to think of it, I dont think i've ever met a financially independent (and i'm not talking paycheck to paycheck, i'm talking $70k/yr or more) woman who was in a successful long term relationship, AND was totally down with PDAs. are they thinking that some 'better catch' might be watching and they want to appear single?! i dunno, hopefully its just a lack of life experience problem on my end; i'm sure they are out there.... just seems few and far between.

A bit off subject, but while we're here - IMO, when America moved into the territory that women were forced to work b/c the man couldnt earn enough to pay for mortgage, kids, food, etc - the male to female relationship structure lost A LOT. In Mexico and other counties where the women still stay at home and watch the kids and clean and make food; the women are totally (and i mean 100%) OK and happy with that. they are happy to support the family in that way, and the union and agreements between the male and female role are clear. here in the great ol' US of A, when women work and earn real money, their expectations seem to change, and the role of male and female along with it. and with that change of role, PDAs seem to get left behind. Wish I could tell you why, its a pretty sad state of affairs.
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another Corkyism...thanks for the great laugh. :rofl

you really have a warped view of reality. you're just projecting your own insecurity.
 
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