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Messing Around While Riding

tzrider said:
There is one thing we may all have in common: This thread has given us each more insight as to who we would and would not like to ride with. :laughing
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I just hooked up a taser to my kill switch :x
 
Consenting adults and all that. But I'd never ride with anyone who pulls that stuff.
 
rodr said:
Consenting adults and all that. But I'd never ride with anyone who pulls that stuff.
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Jokes on you, I believe I have been on a ride with you. I keep it to people I know will find it funny as does everyone here I assume.
 
mean dad said:
perfect.

explain to me how it's ok to bump a tire at a stop (oh my god, he could panic and release his brake, and shoot into traffic!!1!!one!!), yet it's not ok to hit a kill switch (on someone's bike who you've been riding with for many, many years).
for the record, I have xero problem with that. but think of the children....

for fuck's sake, I've had people on the sf friday night rides tell me to go ahead and do wheelies right next to them, cause they trust me and think it looks cool with my wheel right next to their head. does this mean everyone of them is ignorant of the possible dangers? no, it means that they accept those risks, and even a bit more for the sake of fun.

that someone's idea of danger is sitting sideways on a moto at speed going around corners, while someone else thinks touching any part of another's moto is akin to sticking a pole in their spokes is a part of life.
to childishly call them stupid, dumb, or morons is a bit over the top, especially considering there have been some god damn racers in this thread talkiing about fuckin around.

tell ya what. any fucking one of you is more than welcome to fuck with me while I'm on my bike. I'll even take my hands off the bars on the way down the mountain to give you a clear shot at my kill switch. :twofinger
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You need someone to explain to you why tapping someone at a stop is not more dangerous than fucking with their bike at speed? That's sad. All ST guy said was fucking around with kill switches and such could be dangerous. And he's right. It is. He never guaranteed anyone would die, but yes that could happen. If you want to play footsy while riding then do it, but telling anyone who thinks it makes an already dangerous hobby even more so, "they ride scared" makes you look none too bright.
 
*opens door*
*looks in*
*quietly closes door*
*walks away*
 
mean dad said:
to childishly call them stupid, dumb, or morons is a bit over the top, especially considering there have been some god damn racers in this thread talkiing about fuckin around.
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One last comment or two and I'm outta here.

Yea, I could have been a little less "harsh" when I said "dumb as you know what". I call it as I see it and frankly, a lot more "harsh" stuff is said here on the BARF.

Finally, you think just because they're racers that their antics can't backfire? Most of the time they and everyone else gets away with it. But there are times when they don't. For an example, look at what happened when Kevin Magee did those burnouts at the 89 GP. It ended Bubba's career, devastated Magee and effectively ended his career, and could easily have ended Lawson's career as well. All because of shenanigans.

Read and think: http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2005/Jul/1989usgpb.htm

I was there working the race and it was dicey that Shobert was going to live. And you could see the anguish and pain and regret on Magee's part as soon as he hobbled off the track on his bent leg and looked back at the carnage.

Yes, you'll likely get away with your shenanigans. Then again, you might not. If you're only gambling with your life, fine. If you're gambing with other lives, regardless of whether they think it's cool or not, you might want to think again.
 
I'm really trying to avoid Harvey Korman's fate.

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Some of us buy Crusty Demons of Dirt and some of us don't.
 
So, the topic for tomorrow is "Risk Management".

Study your Crusty Demons of Dirt and Jackass DVD's, and be prepared to explain why sometimes shit happens, and sometimes it doesn't.
 
ST Guy said:
One last comment or two and I'm outta here.

Yea, I could have been a little less "harsh" when I said "dumb as you know what". I call it as I see it and frankly, a lot more "harsh" stuff is said here on the BARF.

Finally, you think just because they're racers that their antics can't backfire? Most of the time they and everyone else gets away with it. But there are times when they don't. For an example, look at what happened when Kevin Magee did those burnouts at the 89 GP. It ended Bubba's career, devastated Magee and effectively ended his career, and could easily have ended Lawson's career as well. All because of shenanigans.

Read and think: http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2005/Jul/1989usgpb.htm

I was there working the race and it was dicey that Shobert was going to live. And you could see the anguish and pain and regret on Magee's part as soon as he hobbled off the track on his bent leg and looked back at the carnage.

Yes, you'll likely get away with your shenanigans. Then again, you might not. If you're only gambling with your life, fine. If you're gambing with other lives, regardless of whether they think it's cool or not, you might want to think again.
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Funny you should mention that incident, as I watched it all through a telephoto lens. I was standing on top of a trash can with an empty camera, using it instead of binoculars. I saw Magee stop, and as soon as I saw him plant his feet, I knew what he was going to do.
I watched Shobert and Lawson kinda fist bump each other as they rode towards Magee, and I saw the crash.
Hand to God, I saw it as it happened, up close. Still have the ticket stub, as a matter of fact.
A lot of people blamed Magee at first, but almost as many made note of the fact that Shobert and Lawson were on a race track, and perhaps should have been paying a bit more attention.

I don't think anyone in here assumes that these pranks are absolutely harmless; and they're done with fellow riders with many years of mutual riding miles. I was absolutely rude in my initial post (and subsequent ones as well, to be honest), but like I said, I took distinct umbrage to your assertion that they were reckless stunts with fatal consequences.
Awesome, you threw in some ifs ands and buts, but the continual theme of your posts is that anyone that would do something you wouldn't do, is an idiot. You either assume everyone is stupidly ignorant of the risks involved, or that everyone does these while lane-splitting at twice the limit while running from the cops, kicking each others' tires out from beneath their very motorcycles!
Everyone is an adult (I'm well past 40, by the way), everyone is an accomplished rider, and is only engaging in these acts with "prankable" friends, in safe (as safe as stupid tricks on motorcycles can be) places to do so.

Anyone of you that have ridden with me in the past not want to do so in the future due to this new information? Cool.
 
SpeedyCorky said:
i'm with Bonerov for sure.
yeah its all about time and place. hitting your buddies kill switch between turn 3 and turn 4 would be stupid and dangerous; but doing so on highway 5 with no cars around to rearend your buddy - good times :laughing

just dont do it to DJnick; he gets all butt hurt cuz his crapzuki check engine light comes on sometimes when you hit the kill switch :wow oh wait, that makes it twice as fun :laughing
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You did it to Nick too?:teeth We were stopped at the bottom of Wildcat and when the light changed, I hit his switch:laughing

I only do it to people I've ridden with a lot and know they can handle it.
Doing it to people with short legs that can barely keep their bike upright is not cool, unless its on dirt bikes.
 
mean dad said:
edit to add: no one shoved a cactus up my behind. I took umbrage with your instant supposition that any bit of shenanigans on a moto is a one-way ticket to death and dismemberment, while completely ignoring the fact that safety was a priority by virtually every poster.
your view is that hitting a kill switch = death. fucking idiocy, and I called it like I saw it.
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tzrider said:
Over the years, there have been a variety of shenanigans among trusted friends. Nobody lost an eye or died:

A fellow coach kill-switched me coming into the hot pit at VIR. Parked his bike and hopped over the inside pit wall to debrief his students, who were facing his bike. And me, as I drifted up next to it quietly. We keep sharpies in a holder on our tanks to keep notes; I dropped his into one of his gloves with the tip facing out. Everybody saw it but the other coach. When it came time to go back out, he tried to put his glove on and scribbled all over his hand.

Back when we had fuel petcocks, it was great sport for the mechanic to shut off a guy's petcock. You'd take off after a student and a quarter of a lap later you'd suck the float bowl dry. Pretty stupid and was fortunately a brief phase. It didn't take long before everyone checked the petcock before every ride.

Standing burnouts at red lights with a buddy right behind.

Brought a co-worker's motorcycle up the elevator and into the fourth floor lobby on his birthday. The rest of the team had just left to take him out to lunch; it was the first thing he saw upon returning to work.
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ST Guy said:
First off, I never said anything about it being a one-way ticket to death and dismemberment. Geez. All I said was that there is risk and I, for one, think riders should not put that added risk on another rider. They've got enough risk just being out on the bike.

And sure, there can be times when it's safe, but I'm also hearing about shenanigans while riding. Hitting a kill switch when stopped at a light is one thing, hitting it while riding or otherwise getting close to another rider while riding on public streets is another. My view is NOT "hitting a kill switch = death". 'Never said that.

And is it really idiocy to take note of risk? Methinks you made a lot of assumptions.
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If someone hits my kill switch or creeps up and sidestand kills me , then…

Next stoplight I park my bike step off and remove there keys and throw them on top of the tallest structure I can find, then take off.
 
stoppie said:
If someone hits my kill switch or creeps up and sidestand kills me , then…

Next stoplight I park my bike step off and remove there keys and throw them on top of the tallest structure I can find, then take off.
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:laughing

Use more commas, use 'their' instead of 'there', and definitely remove your keys before you do that, lest someone throw your keys away. :laughing
 
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