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Slow riding practice tips?

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Just for the record. I lead my team in training. We do low speed cone practice one a month for several hours. We also do braking exercises, 30 MPH cone weaves, and some good ol cops n robbers chasing. When we get done in the lot we go play follow the leader where I take my guys through parks, dirt trails, around benches, through streams and any scary stuff I can find. I also take em out to the little dragon, or up Mines, or out to the Berryesa GP to get the high speed twisties while riding side by side in formation.

All of this leads to well rounded confident and safe motor officers.

Parking lots are great but we do a lot more than just cone work.
 
beginner said:
Current PLP exercise list

18by36' figure 8 briskly in second gear between paint marks
18by36' figure 8 in second gear between paint marks, one hand steering
15by32' figure 8 lugging in second gear two hand & one hand steering
14by30' figure 8 in first gear lock to lock bumping on the steering stops
15by32' figure 8 in first gear with a stop/start on the pegs in the center
bucket stops, first gear (new)
slow ride first gear (a couple times a week)
slow ride with start/stop on the pegs first gear
Uturns in 1 1/2 parking spaces briskly in second gear
Uturns in 1 1/2 parking spaces second gear, one hand steering
Hour glass Uturns, lock to lock, in first gear (new)
12' diameter Uturns in first gear bumping the steering stops

I do these with parking lot lines and paint marks.
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:applause You're AWESOME, beginner! :thumbup







:rolleyes
 
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beginner said:
Your post raises too many points.

Agree agree agree but must add, IMO, slow speed work improves feel for the bike at higher speeds.
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You have no idea of what you speak.

Being more productive in the parking lot is the topic that interests me.
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Then you should curtail your comments to the limitations of the parking lot and not expand your fears onto the rest of the public and pass on inaccurate information.

Great skill is always defeated by bad judgment.
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I'm sure you fail to see the irony here.

Keeping the bike straight in braking is important. A severe and valid test is the ability to make a hard stop standing so straight the bike can roll backwards then proceed without putting a foot down.
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Once again, you couldn't be more wrong. The ability to roll backwards after stopping is not an indicator of superior braking skills. It isn't valid, but it sure gave you something to hold onto didn't it? Something to overly focus on so that you don't need to face your other fear(s).
 
beginner said:
Your post raises too many points.

too many words...
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Who are you to even question the information Tim is giving you? You can barely ride... he's been riding, racing, teaching others, and studying data and actively trying to keep riders safe! And you?? You can't even get around a parking lot without crashing. :thumbdown

silversvs said:
Just for the record. I lead my team in training. We do low speed cone practice one a month for several hours. We also do braking exercises, 30 MPH cone weaves, and some good ol cops n robbers chasing. When we get done in the lot we go play follow the leader where I take my guys through parks, dirt trails, around benches, through streams and any scary stuff I can find. I also take em out to the little dragon, or up Mines, or out to the Berryesa GP to get the high speed twisties while riding side by side in formation.

All of this leads to well rounded confident and safe motor officers.

Parking lots are great but we do a lot more than just cone work.
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Pleeeeeeeeeze let me sweep for you.... pleeeeeeeze!!!!!! Berryessa GP or Mines or Both!!!! :teeth
 
beginner said:
Current PLP exercise list

18by36' figure 8 briskly in second gear between paint marks
18by36' figure 8 in second gear between paint marks, one hand steering
15by32' figure 8 lugging in second gear two hand & one hand steering
14by30' figure 8 in first gear lock to lock bumping on the steering stops
15by32' figure 8 in first gear with a stop/start on the pegs in the center
bucket stops, first gear (new)
slow ride first gear (a couple times a week)
slow ride with start/stop on the pegs first gear
Uturns in 1 1/2 parking spaces briskly in second gear
Uturns in 1 1/2 parking spaces second gear, one hand steering
Hour glass Uturns, lock to lock, in first gear (new)
12' diameter Uturns in first gear bumping the steering stops

I do these with parking lot lines and paint marks.
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You have to be able to make the prettiest U turn ever done on knobby tires. :wow
 
This forum needs an emoticon of a smiley face banging it's head against a brick wall to a bloody pulp. Just saying.
 
Haha T, best of both worlds!

I love it when the eye starts going all paddle ball-y!
 
Well, if he really does never go near real public roads, I suppose he's doing what he likes doing and his practice is sortof relevant to his own riding, sortof. We have to accept that his goals in riding are just not the same as ours. That will save us part of the head explody sensation that we are experiencing. The rest... well, if he could ease up on the dogmatic insistence that figure-8s are applicable to the rest of riding in general, that would really help.

rumpofsteelskin said:
beginner is the greatest troll I have ever seen. He is truly a wizard who muddles minds with a figure-eight wave of his 2X4 wand.
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Werd. He actually made Enchanter self-destruct that one time. It remains one of the most gobsmacking spectacles I have ever witnessed.
 
That moment was the single most beautiful event I have ever witnessed on this forum.
 
weak_link said:
How would you know if you never leave the parking lot? Are you making stuff up again?
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The first 2 years moving time was 2 hours a day divided into 3-4 short rides, 500 hours per year. Half on drills and exercises, half on trails and rural roads, mostly trails. Last year, year 3, total moving time went up some, overall practice sessions fell to 30% and got more seasonal (winter is a fine time for the parking lot). This past winter, With snow on the ground the parking lot was supplimented with slow riding on an icey gravel road with lots of interesting traction issues, even at 4-5 mph. To answer enchanter about what skills aren't developed in my parking lot and trails riding,--I wish I had a mini dirt track with a couple of banked turns to work on traction issues. There's no place to 'practice' faster than 30 mph except tracks and public roads which is just another way of saying public roads for most everybody. The significant risks come with speed and traffic.
Stormdragon said:
Everyone else who practices, goes out and actually plays the game! Practice, without testing the skills practiced, leads to a poor set of skills. Even the police, leave the parking lot. Capisce?
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The interesting question is how does a newbie evaluates his skills, a month, a year, a couple of years after starting. I do that by asking, how does my ability to brake and maneuver the bike compare with the same abilities in my car?
Why not try trials?
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My riding is more similar to motor police than trials or motocross.
silversvs said:
We do low speed cone practice one a month for several hours. We also do braking exercises, 30 MPH cone weaves, and some good ol cops n robbers chasing....When we get done in the lot we go play follow the leader where I take my guys through parks, dirt trails, around benches, through streams and any scary stuff I can find....Parking lots are great but we do a lot more than just cone work.
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Which has me wondering what's typical individual practice times for the top half of that group? I doubt silver would say PLP is irrelevent past 30 mph.
Enchanter said:
The ability to roll backwards after stopping is not an indicator of superior braking skills.
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It's an indicator of balance skills which I believe is a factor in braking skills.
Gixxergirl1000 said:
Pleeeeeeeeeze let me sweep for you.... pleeeeeeeze!!!!!! Berryessa GP or Mines or Both!!!! :teeth
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Would you be willing to do the whole motor police practice routine including the group and individual PLP as a condition of participating? Of course you would. I'd do the reverse for the same opportunity although I might avoid roads the rest of the time because it really doesn't interest me so far.
 
beginner said:
It's an indicator of balance skills which I believe is a factor in braking skills.
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And yet again you take something someone said and completely change it into something else. You get the same reactions here as you do on the other motorcycle forums that you frequent, and somehow you fail to learn. I firmly believe that you are suffering from a mental / behavioral issue(s).

My posts will no longer go into the reasons that you are incorrect. They will be short and to the point.

Your interpretation of the importance of the things you practice is incorrect, and quite frequently bat-shit wrong. I will continue to point that out when appropriate.
 
the grinch said:
Psst, hey Stormdragon

vintage trials
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Ooooooooooooooooooo :drool

beginner said:
There's no place to 'practice' faster than 30 mph except tracks and public roads which is just another way of saying public roads for most everybody.

The interesting question is how does a newbie evaluates his skills, a month, a year, a couple of years after starting.
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Wild thought... I know this is a bit of a stretch, but stay with me here... You could evaluate your skill set, and practice even more by... dare I say it? Getting yourself out on a public road!



beginner said:
My riding is more similar to motor police than trials or motocross.
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And that would be because.... wait for it... You haven't tried trials!
 
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