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Slow riding practice tips?

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Actual riding, in real life street conditions, is NOT what he is in this for. He isn't going to take a bike into those situations, ever. If a rider has no interest in the type of skills the rest of us consider indispensable-- panic stopping, swerving, traffic analyzation and quick thinking etc-- but actively avoids the type of riding where those skills are an issue (public roads or 15mph+ EVAR), it boggles us and pains us but really that's just his schtick, and at least he's unlikely to hurt anybody in the process. We can't force him to become a defensive, capable street rider and critical thinker if that's not what he's in this for. We're just beating our heads on a brick wall.

It IS applicable... to a point. But there are seriously diminishing returns.

The basketball dribbling analogy is perfect. When it comes to street riding, even trials training would be like learning to play baseball-- the whole game!-- by practicing contact juggling. Learning not to drop the ball when you're passing it from one hand to the other is nice and all, sure-- but what has that got to do with putting it over the plate? All these parking lot things are like learning 3D animation by doing nothing but 2D figure drawing classes, or learning to scuba dive in the ocean by snorkeling in a swimming pool. Or learning to run triathalons by jogging in place indoors. I fucking love analogies, I could go on all day. Point is, SOME of the skills are sorta applicable, but this limited slice is nowhere near enough to make you good at the rest. You're still doing wax on, wax off, wax on, wax off, and haven't even gotten to painting the fence, much less anything else.

Even your parking lot maneuvers are questionable in their own right, especially the stuff about traction 'slip'. Stuff that Enchanter and others have called you on in VERY specific, thoroughly explained terms.

Yup... which is why I said it was sad...

And personally, I could give a rat's ass about what he does in Michigan. If he wants to be a hamster on a wheel, more power to him... but he needs to STFU with the really bad, dangerous advice he's so witlessly dispensing. It's Spring... there's a whole crop of Newbies out there reading that swill, who might actually take him seriously. I spend enough time as it is picking riders up off the side of the road and doing emergency first aid (seriously, I've seen more actual kneecaps than any woman I know who isn't in the medical field)... I don't need that swill he passes off as knowledge making that worse and getting Newbies hurt... :|
 
Yup... which is why I said it was sad...

And personally, I could give a rat's ass about what he does in Michigan. If he wants to be a hamster on a wheel, more power to him... but he needs to STFU with the really bad, dangerous advice he's so witlessly dispensing. It's Spring... there's a whole crop of Newbies out there reading that swill, who might actually take him seriously. I spend enough time as it is picking riders up off the side of the road and doing emergency first aid (seriously, I've seen more actual kneecaps than any woman I know who isn't in the medical field)... I don't need that swill he passes off as knowledge making that worse and getting Newbies hurt... :|

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just add some areas like panic stopping (Plot that out though) make sure your area is free of debris, loose gravel and such. Figure 8's are great especially when you decrease the 8 on a gradual motion.
Hard stops are in the program. Hard stops on gravel are part of the program because there's a lot of gravel and the main risk around here is deer, not cars.
Practice, Practice, Practice and then Practice some more.
Practice is no chore it's fun. The riders who don't like that idea howl in protest as though there was some religious dogma issue.

Silversys' group has great rides because they also practice together. They probably wouldn't welcome anyone who wasn't part of that preparation. So may be put a group together, practice together and see if practiced groups are more fun on the road.
 
Alright enough of this negativity. Beginner, you're having fun doing what you're doing, and I guess that's all that matters. If you want to keep running circles in your parking lot, do your thing. Personally I'd rather have that than some asshat doing wheelies in a residential neighborhood or in between traffic, which is all too common here in California. Just please refrain from creating any more threads on this topic because as you can see, not many people on Barf could give two sh!ts about parking lot drills.
 
Alright enough of this negativity. Beginner, you're having fun doing what you're doing, and I guess that's all that matters. If you want to keep running circles in your parking lot, do your thing. Personally I'd rather have that than some asshat doing wheelies in a residential neighborhood or in between traffic, which is all too common here in California. Just please refrain from creating any more threads on this topic because as you can see, not many people on Barf could give two sh!ts about parking lot drills.
There's obviously a lot of interest PLP given there are so many posts and views on the thread. A PLP section on the forum list would be nice so it's possible to discuss the topic with other riders who are interested. If that's only a few riders then there should be no problem. If it turns out a lot of riders are interested then what's the problem? May be trainers could hook up with students in a PLP section.
 
Wow, you really are the biggest troll on the internet aren't you? Yes this thread has stirred up a lot of interest, but not the kind of interest you may think you've attracted. No one on this forum agrees with your point of view on this, why you continue to pursue this topic is beyond me.
 
Wow, you really are the biggest troll on the internet aren't you? Yes this thread has stirred up a lot of interest, but not the kind of interest you may think you've attracted. No one on this forum agrees with your point of view on this, why you continue to pursue this topic is beyond me.
I think I noticed a couple of riders so far supporting practice. May be there are a few more. I pursue the topic to get good tips like eddie's braking exercise. It's instructive to learn about what other people practice and may be find some useful exercises I hadn't thought of.

The snow is thawing today, may be next week a few miles of trails will open up.
 
There's obviously a lot of interest PLP given there are so many posts and views on the thread. A PLP section on the forum list would be nice so it's possible to discuss the topic with other riders who are interested. If that's only a few riders then there should be no problem. If it turns out a lot of riders are interested then what's the problem? May be trainers could hook up with students in a PLP section.

We already have a Training Forum.
 
Hey beginner - I thought of some backstory to help further enrich this fascinating character you're developing:

When you were a tiny tot you liked to smear your poo on your bedroom wall in a figure-eight pattern, but your mother scolded you and you felt ashamed and resentful at her control. Now that you're an adult, you rejoice in the thrill of being able to smear as much poo as you want with impunity. As long as you aren't late for dinner. Mother becomes angry when you are late. Mustn't make mother angry.

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I figure I'm a beginner for the first 5 years, intermediate for 5 years, after that we'll see.
No. Time in sport is NOT equal to skill. Practicing without expert coaching will see you reinforce bad habits. As my fencing coach said "Practice does not make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect."

I think I noticed a couple of riders so far supporting practice. May be there are a few more. I pursue the topic to get good tips like eddie's braking exercise. It's instructive to learn about what other people practice and may be find some useful exercises I hadn't thought of.
WTF? Of course we support practice. This is a riding safety site :twofinger

It's your assumptions and bad advice that is the issue, not the actual practice. How are you not getting that?
 
:laughing :rofl :rolleyes :laughing

It wouldn't be so goddamn funny had it not been the 195th post on this topic. :laughing

Read the thread first, people.

Not sure what is so funny, I read the first post, found it to be short yet to his point. I commented just as 193 other people before me did. Its just my comment, just as the other comments are. So unless you can enlighten me on your brilliance and educate me on the manner for which your appeared super powers come from,,, I am all ears

Of course you need to understand, my comment is filled with sarcasm and the intent is simply to reply rhetorically, no need to answer :ride
 
The training forum seems to be for promoting commercial training programs only. The last I remember PLP discussion is not welcome there.

We love it here though.:rofl

It's just a matter of time before this gets moved to Best of teh BARF though.

It's gold, Jerry, GOLD!
 
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