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VW "Clean" Diesel not really clean

Also don't forget that EV's aren't good if the primary source for creating the electricity comes from coal power plants.
 
Dubbington said:
Buyback + compensation

Details not out yet but a buyback will be offered for the value of the car 'before' the diesel information came out. Compensation will also be offered and selling the car back to VW does not seem to be mandatory BUT a fix would still need to be done.

Raises a lot of questions still for me. Who determines the value pre-scandal? Who's paying for the fix once that is determined to work? How much do I get if I choose to keep the car and have it fixed? Warranty on the fix?

Sounded promising when I read a buy back however if it's only like $14k, minus taxes, that's not that much and I still have to go buy a new ride.

http://www.wired.com/2016/04/vw-will-offer-buy-back-cheating-polluting-diesels/
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Well I bought my car 2 months before all this happened for blue book of 18.5 and put probably 2k miles on it so it had 23k when all this happened. Don't know if it's true but I heard tack on another 20-30% luckily my car went in for service 2 days before this happened so exact mileage is on record
 
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I am still driving mine, waiting for more info on the deal, but holding off on getting new tires at this point...
 
radio said June 21st we should have full details for TDI owners as to specifics as to the options they have: modify, or buy back


buy back looks like the best option to me. i dont trust them to modify it to both run clean, and last as long as it otherwise would have
 
I have a 2013 w/ 50k miles, used the customer cash for the 40k dsg service, otherwise it has been maintenance free to this point. But I am skeptical about the long term if they retrofit it.
I will wait for full details as i am sure carb and California will have the harshest enforcement and the car will not be register-able if not "fixed".
 
augustiron said:
I have a 2013 w/ 50k miles, used the customer cash for the 40k dsg service, otherwise it has been maintenance free to this point. But I am skeptical about the long term if they retrofit it.
I will wait for full details as i am sure carb and California will have the harshest enforcement and the car will not be register-able if not "fixed".
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Pretty frustrating as I just did a Tahoe trip and damn thing got like 45mpg and ate up the road. I don't know what I'll get if I sell it back. I too am worried about the fix California will require and if it takes up trunk space or what.

If they extend the warranty and dish out some $$$, I might do it.

I'd also not mind a buyback of purchase price. Let them fix them then sell them used. Getting a check for $26k would be nice. I'd put half that down on a new ride for sure, make payments like $200 a month on a $30k car.
 
wazzuFreddo said:
There are no coal plants in Calfiornia
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Not stating this for California but in general ( I'm pro EV btw).


Often times people lose sight on the technology. Having an EV in Nevada is probably worse than just driving a Prius / diesel.


Good thing is the Bay Area is between 20-30% renewable currently.
 
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I'd like buy back of the full purchase price + for tint and clear bra.

I may buy another GTI or an R. GLI?

2014 low miles- package two (all the bells and whistles).

Went to lunch with a peer from work who has a 2014 A-4 2.0T. Nice car- but no regrets buying the Jetta.
 
25k I think is a fair buy back for my 4door golf. That or 30k but only for another vw
 

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Glad someone chimed in. I thought I was seeing some quite high figures from owners above but what do I know.
 
What we want, what we think they will, and what they should offer will all be different.

If they don't come out with a good figure, then they are setting themselves up for more lawsuits as many owners will chose to stay in the class action suit.
 
Dubbington said:
What we want, what we think they will, and what they should offer will all be different.

If they don't come out with a good figure, then they are setting themselves up for more lawsuits as many owners will chose to stay in the class action suit.
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Yup. Buybacks usually occur at a very favorable price to the consumer, both to avoid continued litigation and to try to do some face saving from a brand perspective. Makes no sense to go full buyback and then try to fuck the owners. I expect the offers will be more than fair.

Oh and can we go back to 7 months ago in this thread where I said the costs associated with this fiasco was going to be waaaayyyy more than everybody, including VW, was estimating. The cost of this buyback alone, just these cars, no other part of the world, no fines, nothing, will likely be more than VW set aside for the entire affair.
 
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I wonder if there will be a stipulation that bought back cars get crushed or if VW will be able to flip them to a country that doesn't care about emissions.
 
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