Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

[DesiDucati]

From talking to friends and relatives that have lived here for a long time, Asians have had this crisis for decades. For some strange reason the **** media finally decided to talk about it but their agenda is twisting the facts to say it has to do with Covid or Trump. These kind of attacks have been around for DECADES before Trump and before Covid. Just google “dot busting” and you’ll see Desi-Americans have been attacked and terrorized since the 1980s.

 

[DesiDucati]

Personally I think this is an attempt by the Media to divide us once again. And as mentally weak as people are it won't take much to have us all looking at each other with suspicion. Corona has EVERYONE on edge and right now you cannot be perceived as a target as they say blood is in the water and the Sharks are circling.

Travel in groups, be aware of your surroundings, carry pepper spray.
And I also find this portrayal of Asians as weak to be bullshit. I remember when a pack of Asian dudes caught me and my cousin cutting school over near James Denman Middle school and beat the brakes off of us LOL. These guys out here involved in all the fuckery WILL run into a group of young Asian savages and they are going to regret it. I got my head slammed in someones gate and about 25 stitches behind my ear you know what I learned TRAVEL IN A BIGGER GROUP.

This is more a decline in moral decency than a coordinated attack on a specific ethnicity. I've stepped in between a group of kids accosting a older Asian woman on BART before when you project confidence and make it known you are willing to legitimately fuck someone up they back off. Asians need to start doling out some vicious street justice and I guarantee this shit stops.

I agree, the media of often dishonest and I do thank Members on this message board to pointing out its flaws both in the Left and the Right.

 

[tzrider]

I also want to say I don’t hate all of them. Just the ones that commit crimes and the people that let them back outside on the streets.

If the people you hate are ones who commit crimes, what is the use of saying what color they are?

 

[MysterYvil]

Use this.

https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=7226

That shows arrests. I'm sure the police are fair and balanced when it comes to arrests.

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[Climber]

From talking to friends and relatives that have lived here for a long time, Asians have had this crisis for decades. For some strange reason the **** media finally decided to talk about it but their agenda is twisting the facts to say it has to do with Covid or Trump. These kind of attacks have been around for DECADES before Trump and before Covid. Just google “dot busting” and you’ll see Desi-Americans have been attacked and terrorized since the 1980s.

Do you understand frequency?

That's when something that happened occasionally starts happening more frequently.

How often are girls and young women getting killed in 'honor killing' these days?

 

[bojangle]

Personally I think this is an attempt by the Media to divide us once again. And as mentally weak as people are it won't take much to have us all looking at each other with suspicion. Corona has EVERYONE on edge and right now you cannot be perceived as a target as they say blood is in the water and the Sharks are circling.

Travel in groups, be aware of your surroundings, carry pepper spray.
And I also find this portrayal of Asians as weak to be bullshit. I remember when a pack of Asian dudes caught me and my cousin cutting school over near James Denman Middle school and beat the brakes off of us LOL. These guys out here involved in all the fuckery WILL run into a group of young Asian savages and they are going to regret it. I got my head slammed in someones gate and about 25 stitches behind my ear you know what I learned TRAVEL IN A BIGGER GROUP.

This is more a decline in moral decency than a coordinated attack on a specific ethnicity. I've stepped in between a group of kids accosting a older Asian woman on BART before when you project confidence and make it known you are willing to legitimately fuck someone up they back off. Asians need to start doling out some vicious street justice and I guarantee this shit stops.

That IS how to stop a bully.

That shows arrests. I'm sure the police are fair and balanced when it comes to arrests.

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Pretty much.

You're not going to find a whole lot of bias when it comes to arrests for, or reports of, violent crimes. If you're looking for possible police bias, you really need to look at the crimes against the state type of things, which can be targeted by police, rather than violent crime against others, which really can't be.

 

[Eldritch]

That shows arrests. I'm sure the police are fair and balanced when it comes to arrests.

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Of course they are. If you have data from an unbiased source, I would be happy to review as happily as I will dismiss any anecdotal trash people give out about their personal experiences.

 

[NSR500]

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv18.pdf

Looking at Table 14 and taking the top two non-Asian ethnic groups in the violent crime category against Asians you'd have:

Blacks - 27.5%
Whites - 24.1%

Whites are 62.3% of the US population, Blacks are 12%, and Asians are 6.3% so the data in Table 15 suggests that Asians are over 270% more likely to be victimized by a Black person.
Table 14 also shows that for the categorized groups, they're more likely to be victimized by a person in their own demographic, except when it comes to Asians. Asians are more likely to be victimized by someone outside of their group, namely a Blacks.

Looking at stats other than crime to gain greater understanding about Asians in America we can look at Medical School Admissions.

Across the board an Asian applicant to Medical School has to achieve a Higher MCAT than all other demographics and equal or exceed the GPA of a White person.

So on the face of statistics alone one can surmise that roughly 65% of the American population have a lower barrier to entry for opportunity than the 6.5%, and that same 65% are the main perpetrators of violent crime against the 6.5%.

Looks pretty "Anti-Asian" to me.

 

[KooLaid]

Wow, damn. That is surprising. ^ Awful acceptance rates but look on the other side...

 

[Climber]

There is a missing variable there. How many people applied in each group?

An acceptance rate is a function of the number of people who applied. Without that number the data is sitting in the middle of nowhere.

It's like talking about stock options offered without knowing how many total stocks there are.

 

[AbsolutEnduser]

I agree, but the only reason it picked up wind because it was Dion Lim that was actually giving the issue some light. If it weren't for her, most of the Bay Area news outlets still wouldn't give a shit about it.

Dion Lim to the reporting rescue, boss

https://abc7news.com/exclusive-video-shows-man-save-older-woman-during-sf-carjacking/10415165/

"A group of 17 (?) year-olds hijack a women and make her head bloody - luckily a guy intervenes"


And don't break no back windows mmkay.. that said they were in so maybe it probably helped. Sigh, was a nice compact Lexus..

 

[Agent Orange]

Yep, here's another one. https://abc7news.com/oakland-crime-gas-station-attack-police/10417580/

 

[tzrider]

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv18.pdf

Looking at Table 14 and taking the top two non-Asian ethnic groups in the violent crime category against Asians you'd have:

Blacks - 27.5%
Whites - 24.1%

Whites are 62.3% of the US population, Blacks are 12%, and Asians are 6.3% so the data in Table 15 suggests that Asians are over 270% more likely to be victimized by a Black person.

No it doesn't. By that table, an Asian person is 1.14 times more likely to be victimized by a Black person than a White.

I don't know how you arrived at the 270%, but it seems like you were trying to show the relative likelihood that a Black person would commit a violent crime against an Asian than a White person would. That wouldn't be the same thing as the "likelihood of being victimized."

From the data available (including a US population of 327.2M in 2018), the number of violent crimes committed against Asians per White person is 0.000215, per Black person is 0.001276 and per Asian person is 0.002131.

This gets into dangerous territory when you compare raw numbers with no context, but the raw numbers say a Black individual is 5.9 times more likely to commit a violent crime against an Asian than a White person. Scary, right? Should Asian people be extra careful around Black people?

If you stop there, you might draw that conclusion. Might be safest for Asians to stick to Asian neighborhoods. Except that Asians are 9.9 times more likely to commit violent crimes against Asians.

Oops.

 

[gnahc79]

From talking to friends and relatives that have lived here for a long time, Asians have had this crisis for decades. For some strange reason the **** media finally decided to talk about it but their agenda is twisting the facts to say it has to do with Covid or Trump. These kind of attacks have been around for DECADES before Trump and before Covid. Just google “dot busting” and you’ll see Desi-Americans have been attacked and terrorized since the 1980s.

have you been living under a rock for the past year? Yes there's been racisum for decades. What has been happening for the past year is a new monster. We have Asians being verbally and physically attacked with the whole "China Flu/Kung Flu" thing. A female friend was verbally attacked and followed by a pair of white dudes at a grocery store in the San Jose area back in March of 2020. Yelling all sorts of China Flu garbage. A worker there managed to redirect the attention of the two guys and told my friend to go.

 

[Eldritch]

have you been living under a rock for the past year? Yes there's been racisum for decades. What has been happening for the past year is a new monster. We have Asians being verbally and physically attacked with the whole "China Flu/Kung Flu" thing. A female friend was verbally attacked and followed by a pair of white dudes at a grocery store in the San Jose area back in March of 2020. Yelling all sorts of China Flu garbage. A worker there managed to redirect the attention of the two guys and told my friend to go.

Hey look, all other unfortunate bullshit aside, Kung Flu is hilarious.

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[gnahc79]

context is everything, Chappelle saying it in a standup routine is debatable. Not so much in the general public from a hostile white dude when there's an azn person fearing for her life.

 

[AbsolutEnduser]

have you been living under a rock for the past year? Yes there's been racisum for decades. What has been happening for the past year is a new monster. ...

It does seem he is lacking in information, yeah. And also as if he's looking for a reason to NOT present it as happening as a consequence of the last four or last 1 year. (the part you bolded)

BTW I did .. look up “dot busting” and pretty much came up with nothing on duckduckgo But true, when I googled, the first result--and only one--showed me an event from 1987. Didn't know.

Yep, here's another one. https://abc7news.com/oakland-crime-gas-station-attack-police/10417580/

That... was kind of a hilarious video.
Good luck to the owner, and yes that guy assaulted him with the spray.

That (weird?) socially-awkward (?) person was out of line... but simply paying with quarters at the beginning should have been OK (only.. once again... weird. ?)
One could wonder whether the person was repeating things he learned from the media.

 

[Eldritch]

context is everything, Chappelle saying it in a standup routine is debatable. Not so much in the general public from a hostile white dude when there's an azn person fearing for her life.

Nope, not debatable, that shit is hilarious as proven by total Comedy science. You are 100% correct about the rest though.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv18.pdf

Looking at Table 14 and taking the top two non-Asian ethnic groups in the violent crime category against Asians you'd have:

Blacks - 27.5%
Whites - 24.1%

Whites are 62.3% of the US population, Blacks are 12%, and Asians are 6.3% so the data in Table 15 suggests that Asians are over 270% more likely to be victimized by a Black person.
Table 14 also shows that for the categorized groups, they're more likely to be victimized by a person in their own demographic, except when it comes to Asians. Asians are more likely to be victimized by someone outside of their group, namely a Blacks.

Looking at stats other than crime to gain greater understanding about Asians in America we can look at Medical School Admissions.

Across the board an Asian applicant to Medical School has to achieve a Higher MCAT than all other demographics and equal or exceed the GPA of a White person.

So on the face of statistics alone one can surmise that roughly 65% of the American population have a lower barrier to entry for opportunity than the 6.5%, and that same 65% are the main perpetrators of violent crime against the 6.5%.

Looks pretty "Anti-Asian" to me.

Interesting numbers, but seems kind of like a surprise side jam. What do you suppose is the reason for the variance on that table and specifically how do you feel that plays into this larger conversation?

 

[NSR500]

There is a missing variable there. How many people applied in each group?

An acceptance rate is a function of the number of people who applied. Without that number the data is sitting in the middle of nowhere.

It's like talking about stock options offered without knowing how many total stocks there are.

Number of applicants is a red herring.

The issue staring society in the face is that there’s a different admissions criteria that must be met based on ethnicity.

 

[NSR500]

No it doesn't. By that table, an Asian person is 1.14 times more likely to be victimized by a Black person than a White.

I don't know how you arrived at the 270%, but it seems like you were trying to show the relative likelihood that a Black person would commit a violent crime against an Asian than a White person would. That wouldn't be the same thing as the "likelihood of being victimized."

From the data available (including a US population of 327.2M in 2018), the number of violent crimes committed against Asians per White person is 0.000215, per Black person is 0.001276 and per Asian person is 0.002131.

This gets into dangerous territory when you compare raw numbers with no context, but the raw numbers say a Black individual is 5.9 times more likely to commit a violent crime against an Asian than a White person. Scary, right? Should Asian people be extra careful around Black people?

If you stop there, you might draw that conclusion. Might be safest for Asians to stick to Asian neighborhoods. Except that Asians are 9.9 times more likely to commit violent crimes against Asians.

Oops.

Asian on Black crime = <0.1%
Black on Asian crime = 27.5%

Therefore Asians are 270-280% likely to be victimized by Blacks.