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Do You Mountain Bike?

Wouldn't mind seeing this re-kindled sometime. I'd love to get out there on my Mongoose Blackcomb...

Hope it's no big deal, but I merged this in with the primary mountain bike thread for a little more visibility, and to follow the rules set for this particular forum (individual events are to be posted in Social Gatherings).

I've received a few other requests for another novice ride - hoping to make something like that happen again soon!
 
Total Noob Mtn Ride?

I live 2 minutes from Lime Ridge Open Space and it is a great place for a Super Noob ride. Like first time ever in the dirt noob ride. We could have a short clinic/bike fit/air in the tires clinic at my place and then cruise up the street for a super safe 45min - 1 hr in the dirt. A couple of chaperones would be good. Anyone interested??
 
I can bring my girlfriend, shes not a total newb but she just started clipless so we'd be down
 
I am planning a day run to North Star this weekend either Sat or Sunday

Anyone want to split the gas up and back??

I am testing a potential new bike
 
I live 2 minutes from Lime Ridge Open Space and it is a great place for a Super Noob ride. Like first time ever in the dirt noob ride. We could have a short clinic/bike fit/air in the tires clinic at my place and then cruise up the street for a super safe 45min - 1 hr in the dirt. A couple of chaperones would be good. Anyone interested??

I can bring my girlfriend, shes not a total newb but she just started clipless so we'd be down


I'd be down to help, and JMack can get his first dirt ride in that way too.
 
Anyone here have a suspension fork (V-brake compatible) for a reasonable price they are willing to sell? I have a '03 (I think) Gary Fisher Sugar that needs a new front end.

I do know about many sites but am open to suggestions.

Sam
 
Downieville Campsite

We should book something. Saturday only? Friday and Saturday? Do we want to stay near Sierra City? Downieville? Or up near Packer Saddle?

I posted on MTBR.com and got the following information regarding camp sites:

I have stayed there (The Wild Plum) quite a few times for the race. Usually because it is the only place that still had a site.

If you are doing the XC and want to be closer to Sierra City I would stick w/ that one, or Union Flat (but it may be walk-in only) or Loganville.

If you don't mind being on the other side of town, Rocky Rest is a good one (site #6 is killer). Ramshorn is ok, but more mosquitos and farther from the Yuba.

You can always stay up top @ Pack Saddle as well. Very big campground where the "good times" crowd likes to stay. Close to the DH start but a ways from town.

All sites are here:

http://www.yubaexpeditions.com/pages/downievillecamping.html

Reservation info is here:

http://www.recreation.gov/camping/U...?contractCode=NRSO&siteId=148961&parkId=75424
 
Holy crap. Cody, Sonny and Roxy kicked my ass yesterday on ER/WR. Here's my trace. average heartrate 169 bpm :wtf I need to get back in shape. :cry Didn't help I was running like 20 psi :mad

http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/6118834

Wowza....over an hour in zone 5!?!?!?:wow:wtf

For all you Garmin users, how did you calculate your max HR? Did you use the "standard" 220 - age, or .....or did you just leave it at the default 201bpm.

John, how did you get your 185bpm max?:confused

Seems like I'm rarely in zone 5 (less than 10 minutes), even for the time trial workouts...but mostly in Zone 4.
 
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Wowza....over an hour in zone 5!?!?!?:wow:wtf

For all you Garmin users, how did you calculate your max HR? Did you use the "standard" 220 - age, or .....or did you just leave it at the default 201bpm.

John, how did you get your 185bpm max?:confused

Seems like I'm rarely in zone 5 (less than 10 minutes), even for the time trial workouts...but mostly in Zone 4.

Don't remember how I did that. Just followed Garmin's instructions in initial setup. I did think my max heartrate seemed kind of on the low side. And I did get my heartrate up to 190 at a couple of points. I feel great today though, recovery was surprisingly short.
 
Wowza....over an hour in zone 5!?!?!?:wow:wtf

I'm looking at my records - looks like I've managed it in my last few MTB races as well. Didn't Ryan have one that was like off the map?

For all you Garmin users, how did you calculate your max HR? Did you use the "standard" 220 - age, or .....or did you just leave it at the default 201bpm.

I've actually topped out at 201 when I was "racing" Joe to the top of China Camp. Since then, I've used that.

Seems like I'm rarely in zone 5 (less than 10 minutes), even for the time trialed workouts...but mostly in Zone 4.

What's your highest measured HR?
 
does one really need a hr monitor? i just got a garmin edge, without the hr, and don't really think its that crucial for me. maybe im wrong?
 
does one really need a hr monitor? i just got a garmin edge, without the hr, and don't really think its that crucial for me. maybe im wrong?

This article covers it pretty well. From http://www.marathonguide.com/training/articles/HeartMonitorTraining.cfm

Athletic heart monitors have existed for several years now, but it wasn't until relatively recently that the technology behind them, and the development of heart monitor training techniques came together to make training with a monitor both simple and effective for the average runner. While many runners own heart monitors, often they may not be using the devices to their full potential. Other runners do not own a heart monitor and are unaware of the benefits of training with one.

Why Use a Heart Rate Monitor?

Heart monitors are devices that are designed for wear during strenuous exercise, and serve the purpose of measuring and recording your heart rate, while giving you instant feedback about the work level of your heart. The fitness of the heart is the key to one's aerobic endurance - sometimes called 'cardiovascular respiratory endurance'. Both for health and racing reasons, aerobic endurance is a point of focus for almost any runner. Heart monitors are one of the most effective aids for tracking and developing your progress on the path to increased aerobic endurance.

1) Accuracy And Ease: Heart monitors are the only effective way to track and record your heart rate over the course of an entire workout. Not only do heart monitors provide you with a complete record of your heart rate for the duration of your workout, but they are also more accurate than manual methods. Stopping during a run to count your pulse disrupts both your workout and your heart rate, and even the application of pressure to the carotid artery - perhaps the most common point for manual pulse detection - slows down the pulse.

2) Monitor Your Fitness: Cardiovascular fitness is the single most significant factor in your speed as a runner. Consequently, being able to track your cardiovascular fitness - not to mention tailoring your workouts to meet cardiovascular goals - is an extremely useful training tool. Measuring the work-rate of the heart is the most accurate method of determining how much benefit you are deriving from your workout (a discussion on how to gauge results can be seen in section III). Other methods, such as how hard one is breathing, or how tired one feels, can reflect other factors and give imprecise impressions of the effectiveness of your workout.

3) Prevent Over-Training: For many competitive runners, every week's workout regimen is essentially a seven-day dance along the fine line between optimal training and over-training. Using a heart monitor to avoid stressing your body too much means that you will maximize the efficiency of your training, while minimizing the opportunity for injury. Injuries are much less likely to occur when you are not over-taxing your body, and avoiding injuries is tantamount to avoiding setbacks in your training. While opinions differ on how much running is too much (we will discuss this more later), once you determine the desired intensity of your weekly workouts, you can use the monitor as a gauge. Are your recovery days really allowing your body to recover? The surprising answer, in many cases, is that runners' easy days are simply not easy enough. Use your monitor to stay below a certain ceiling, and you will avoid depleting your body's glycogen stores, ensuring that you will have the energy to perform your intense workouts with vigor and that you will not have to take unexpected days off from fatigue.

4) Prevent Under-Training: Though perhaps less common than over-training, some runners simply do not run hard enough, often enough. In this case, the monitor can function as a sort of coach, telling you when your body can handle more, and consequently, when you should pick up the pace. Set a minimum heart-rate goal for your run, and the monitor will sound an alarm when you have dropped below your target, telling you to work harder.

5) Pacing During Training: Perhaps the most obvious use for a heart monitor is to pace your training runs. Sometimes your time is not the best measure of how hard you are working. Different terrain, different energy levels, inconsistent distance measurements, and any number of factors can mislead you into thinking that you have performed well or poorly when the opposite may be true. Your cardiovascular performance is best measured by the work-rate of your heart, so pacing your training runs according to your heart rate is the best method of targeting your cardiovascular fitness as you do your workout.

6) Pacing During A Race: Some runners not only train with a heart monitor, but race with one as well. The monitor is a better tool for gauging effort during a race than mile markers, as the appropriate speed of each mile during a race can vary. Also, the monitor is indifferent to the wind, the paces of the other runners, the cheering of the crowds, the silence of lonely stretches that occur towards the end of some races, and any hills and curves; it is an objective observer than can help you maintain a consistent work rate, both over varied terrain and in areas where external factors affect your motivation and speed. Within a racing context, a monitor is perhaps most useful in preventing you from going out too fast or working too hard early in the race.

7) Enjoyment: While many runners enjoy their long runs, using a heart monitor adds a twist to running, whether it is being worn for a race or for training, for one mile or for twenty. Monitors can give you an accurate and fun way to quantify your progress, and if for no other reason, contribute some variety to the activity.
 
does one really need a hr monitor? i just got a garmin edge, without the hr, and don't really think its that crucial for me. maybe im wrong?

I'd guess it depends on what you're trying to do. Every tool has its intended use. If you're doing some all mountain runs with a bunch of DH I doubt you'd ever consider one. Training for XC races I could see somebody being interested in the data. (all from my limited knowledge on the subject)
 
I'm looking at my records - looks like I've managed it in my last few MTB races as well. Didn't Ryan have one that was like off the map?

I've actually topped out at 201 when I was "racing" Joe to the top of China Camp. Since then, I've used that.

What's your highest measured HR?
So one of the guys I work for is 55 yrs old now. I think he got to busy (work wise) and had to stop racing about 2 years ago but the dude never road a bicycle before 1996 and between then and 2 years ago established himself as a serious top-notch, national level road racer. He says he's comfortable running at between 200 - 210 for long periods of time and usually wins by making an early break and can sustain 220+ the whole time.:wtf

Now that's some sick shit. I think your either born with that, ...or not!

That said, I once saw 213 on the monitor at the very top of Diablo and was extremely surprised that I didn't die and/or hack up a lung. :barf


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Didn't Ryan have one that was like off the map?

What's your highest measured HR?

I think Ryan maintained it in the 190-200 range throughout one of his West-East Ridge loops -- even on the descents.

Lately, it hasn't gone beyond 180 -- and by 175 I already feel :green
 
Wow. Just. Wow.

This is the sickest DH run I have ever seen. I'm awestruck.

Just watch.

[youtube]IYjTzq2xisU[/youtube]
 
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