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School me: AWD, mid SUV, mid to high end, good mpg

augustiron said:
Negative. Mazda has never been on my personal radar. I'll take a.look now though. Thx.
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When I asked Rob why my wife's Acura TSX was so stone reliable while the newer ILX was not he pointed out that my wife's car was built in Japan, the ILX etc. in Ohio.

My wife's 2019 Mazda CX5 is built in Hiroshima Japaj just like my bullet proof 1994 Miata, the new CX50 is built in Alabama.
 
I wonder if different assembly locations plays a role in the sourcing of parts, because manufacturing is so dialed in these days that I doubt you'd see much of a difference between a Ford made in Michigan versus Mexico. But, if the different locations had different sourcing of parts, then differences in quality could only be reflected through their respective locations.
 
I’ll say it.

Made in Japan>Made in Canada>Made in USA>Made in Mexico.

European makes can slot in anywhere except above all Japan construction…nothing can touch that in terms of quality and reliability.
 
TheRobSJ said:
I’ll say it.

Made in Japan>Made in Canada>Made in USA>Made in Mexico.

European makes can slot in anywhere except above all Japan construction…nothing can touch that in terms of quality and reliability.
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Toyota seeing the BMW B58 and S58 engines as fit to use in their flagship sports car (Supra) and upcoming GRMN Supra is good enough for me.

For 2022, the top 3 most reliable brands according to Consumer Reports are Subaru, Mazda, and BMW. Followed by Honda, Lexus, Audi, Porsche, Mini, THEN Toyota in 9th.

https://www.forbes.com/wheels/news/consumer-reports-car-rankings/

The BMW / Toyota engineering collab video was pretty good. BMW guys said they took interest and note of how robust Toyota demands things be, while Toyota took note of how performance oriented BMW designs were. Additional bonus from the collab - while Toyota gained performance, BMW gained reliability and hybrid technology. So the next iteration / generation of hybrid BMWs should be pretty interesting.

edit: If we go off of JD Power rather than Consumer Reports, BMW drops to 10th (tied with Acura) while Toyota jumps to 4th. Lexus, Porsche, Kia take the top 3.

Either way, BMW's in the top 10.
 
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I don't get Consumer report ratings anymore.
Quite often their top rated cars/suv's are known time bombs....
 
dtrides said:
I don't get Consumer report ratings anymore.
Quite often their top rated cars/suv's are known time bombs....
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Yes, giving the Tesla S when they first tested one a score of 100 made me groan as they were clearly just being fanboys.

Their reliability ratings are solid though as they are the result of actual owners answering detailed questionnaires.

Toyota/Lexus are the only brands rated in the 70s on a 100 point scale.

Here are the lowest rated.

16. Ram 42
17. Cadillac 42
18. Ford 41
19. Tesla 40
20. Chevrolet 40
21. GMC 36
22. Volkswagen VWAGY 31
23. Jeep 30
24. Mercedes-Benz 26

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/t...to-consumer-reports-11668721354?mod=citywatch
 
Lol.
Jfc how many pages?!!?

I love reading ownership/build threads sometimes.
But I am amazed people can take the time to document changing their serpentine belts, etc.
But I'm glad they do.
No way I can do that.

I am exactly the opposite as you know Auntie....

Me: " I just built a custom painted, full overland build, OEM intercooled diesel 5 speed swapped rig out of a bone stock 80!"
Anyone: " wow! Can I see some pix?!?"
Me: " uh, I don't have any, I was too busy building it"
 
punchline of that thread is that duder buys a used r63, 12k miles later it blows the engine because that's what the amg 63 engines do (shitty headbolt design, compounded by the most likely to fail head bolt being impossible to access because: minivan) and gets butthurt when the dealer won't help him fixt it... then fixes it himself.

you could put a toyoya diesel in it tho. that would be rad
 
auntiebling said:
punchline of that thread is that duder buys a used r63, 12k miles later it blows the engine because that's what the amg 63 engines do (shitty headbolt design, compounded by the most likely to fail head bolt being impossible to access because: minivan) and gets butthurt when the dealer won't help him fixt it... then fixes it himself.

you could put a toyoya diesel in it tho. that would be rad
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I remember reading that saga a while back. I guess if you have the time? Sure take it on yourself. Me? I’m more than happy to slap a “bought not built” sticker on my car. After fixing everyone else’s cars all day long, I’ve got no motivation left to wrench on my own stuff.
 
The engine is the only thing going for that. And 2007 is early production for the M156 engine so it's more likely to have the head bolt issue. Overall the R class is junk :laughing
 
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auntiebling said:
punchline of that thread is that duder buys a used r63, 12k miles later it blows the engine because that's what the amg 63 engines do (shitty headbolt design, compounded by the most likely to fail head bolt being impossible to access because: minivan) and gets butthurt when the dealer won't help him fixt it... then fixes it himself.

you could put a toyoya diesel in it tho. that would be rad
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MB has been near the bottom of the Consumer Reports reliablity list lately.

MB is below Jeep, Chevy, GMC, VW
 
auntiebling said:
punchline of that thread is that duder buys a used r63, 12k miles later it blows the engine because that's what the amg 63 engines do (shitty headbolt design, compounded by the most likely to fail head bolt being impossible to access because: minivan) and gets butthurt when the dealer won't help him fixt it... then fixes it himself.

you could put a toyoya diesel in it tho. that would be rad
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Belong's up The Shervin thread....

August: NO!
 
TheRobSJ said:
I remember reading that saga a while back. I guess if you have the time? Sure take it on yourself. Me? I’m more than happy to slap a “bought not built” sticker on my car. After fixing everyone else’s cars all day long, I’ve got no motivation left to wrench on my own stuff.
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When I worked at Pop Kenyon's eons ago, two of the mechanics each drove a roached Dodge van (one was admittedly worse than the other). When I asked one of them why he didn't fix up his ride, he said, "Man, the last thing I want to do when I'm done wrenching here is go home and wrench some more."
 
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