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Skully P-1 what is your take on it?

What is the asshole attitude about trying the thing on?

It makes perfect sense that they're picking and choosing high profile users that are adept at social media to put on the beta test train. To do otherwise would be a poor business decision.

Still, it definitely would show a little goodwill to throw at least 3 or 4 prototypes out to some real world regular jane/joe type riders.
 
psychocandy said:
What is the asshole attitude about trying the thing on?

It makes perfect sense that they're picking and choosing high profile users that are adept at social media to put on the beta test train. To do otherwise would be a poor business decision.

Still, it definitely would show a little goodwill to throw at least 3 or 4 prototypes out to some real world regular jane/joe type riders.
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Methinks that by focusing so exclusively on "high profile users" that bring "great visibility", they might be alienating the next 30% of semi-early adopters. You know, the guys that actually make up some volume in the market. After listening to their CEO talk, and the way they handle the beta, I'm certainly turned off.

tl;dr: I said SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY, they said "Fuck off, hobo". Not going to buy until <$500, if at all. The burned the fan in me, so I can only look at it objectively now. And objectively, I'm not going to pay to beta test their shit.
 
YellowBastard said:
Methinks that by focusing so exclusively on "high profile users" that bring "great visibility", they might be alienating the next 30% of semi-early adopters. You know, the guys that actually make up some volume in the market. After listening to their CEO talk, and the way they handle the beta, I'm certainly turned off.

tl;dr: I said SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY, they said "Fuck off, hobo". Not going to buy until <$500, if at all. The burned the fan in me, so I can only look at it objectively now. And objectively, I'm not going to pay to beta test their shit.
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Your summary was as long as your "full length" version.
 
RightCoastBias said:
Your summary was as long as your "full length" version.
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:laughing

YellowBastard said:
Methinks that by focusing so exclusively on "high profile users" that bring "great visibility", they might be alienating the next 30% of semi-early adopters. You know, the guys that actually make up some volume in the market. After listening to their CEO talk, and the way they handle the beta, I'm certainly turned off.

tl;dr: I said SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY, they said "Fuck off, hobo". Not going to buy until <$500, if at all. The burned the fan in me, so I can only look at it objectively now. And objectively, I'm not going to pay to beta test their shit.
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If you're not willing to pay more than $500, you're not even close to the semi-early adopter crowd for this. Hell, you're not even in the market for a lot of good regular helmets.
 
Maybe time for a Skully thread merge?

Repost from http://bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=461442

I love gadgets, especially usefulll ones. It's an idea who's time has come. At this point it is a novelty but I expect it or something like it will be the norm in the future (5-8yrs?). I don't see it being a distraction during daylight riding, but when it's dark out that little light can cause partial night blindness and definitely be some distraction. The passive rear view mirror in my Reevu works very well and is no distraction at all. If they develop a mirror system that distorts less it will be perfect.

Iron Man's full face display is pretty cool, but, imo, the main reason for riding at all is the man-machine connection of the ride itself, not info about the ride. Critical info like oil pressure, engine/coolant temperature, tire pressure etc. is a good idea, but I've already got that. Weather info? Do we get flash noreasters? I think checking the news in the morning and looking outside is good enough for me.

I'm looking forward to the refinement of the skully and the Reevu
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YellowBastard said:
Methinks that by focusing so exclusively on "high profile users" that bring "great visibility", they might be alienating the next 30% of semi-early adopters. You know, the guys that actually make up some volume in the market. After listening to their CEO talk, and the way they handle the beta, I'm certainly turned off.

tl;dr: I said SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY, they said "Fuck off, hobo". Not going to buy until <$500, if at all. The burned the fan in me, so I can only look at it objectively now. And objectively, I'm not going to pay to beta test their shit.
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I see the whole test pilot scheme as a huge PR campaign that may actually backfire. They did draw a huge amount of publicity but in the end they let loose a few helmets to people who appear to work in the tech field and (by looking at the cover) won't be riding these things into oblivion.

If they need beta testers who can help them program and get the operating system sorted, they should have done that undercover and run the PR campaign once the product was mostly baked. I'd like to see the helmet in the hands of someone who is going to wear it every day for a few months. Someone who is going to run the batteries dry a few times. Someone who's going to ride away and not come back for a week or two, get it wet, get it dirty and stink it up. That is when Skully is going to find the real issues. Until there is a pretty good long term review that covers that type of stuff the helmets aren't going to be on my radar.

I like the concept... I hope Skully delivers. So far, the company itself is giving me questions- not their product.
 
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boney said:
I see the whole test pilot scheme as a huge PR campaign that may actually backfire. They did draw a huge amount of publicity but in the end they let loose a few helmets to people who appear to work in the tech field and (by looking at the cover) won't be riding these things into oblivion.

If they need beta testers who can help them program and get the operating system sorted, they should have done that undercover and run the PR campaign once the product was mostly baked. I'd like to see the helmet in the hands of someone who is going to wear it every day for a few months. Someone who is going to run the batteries dry a few times. Someone who's going to ride away and not come back for a week or two, get it wet, get it dirty and stink it up. That is when Skully is going to find the real issues. Until there is a pretty good long term review that covers that type of stuff the helmets aren't going to be on my radar.

I like the concept... I hope Skully delivers. So far, the company itself is giving me questions- not their product.
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my GF's dad got picked up as a tester and hes an average middle aged dude that doesn't work in the tech industry, but uses his bike as his main transportation.
 
I think for the rear view it would be quite nice to have for commuting safety, depending on the cost I'm certainly keeping an ear to the ground on this one.
 
SLOWREX03 said:
my GF's dad got picked up as a tester and hes an average middle aged dude that doesn't work in the tech industry, but uses his bike as his main transportation.
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Interesting. One would think they'd be a bit more public about the helmets they're sending out. I've only seen a few high profile mentions here and there. Anyone know how many they've got out and to whom?
 
NorCalAthlete said:
I wonder...if you have a rear view helmet, can you do away with your side mirrors completely?
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I wouldn't see the point. If you're on a long ride and your battery dies, you have no way to check behind you.

Not to mention the CVC requires one mirror and I try and not find silly reasons for cops to pull me over.
 
boney said:
Interesting. One would think they'd be a bit more public about the helmets they're sending out. I've only seen a few high profile mentions here and there. Anyone know how many they've got out and to whom?
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They're being high profile about the high profile ones and low profile about the low profile ones. If you were a beta tester, do you want your name and address blasted publicly and moto-journalists showing up unannounced at your door to interview you?

I get that folks are upset they haven't had access to this yet, either to try on or to beta test - there just aren't that many prototypes in the world. I also know the founders and the company, and like us, every single day is an exercise in prioritization in the absence of good information. That is startup life. We do never, and will never, have the resources to do everything perfectly and by the book, so we make an uninformed but educated best guess about the best use of our very limited time and resources. Sometimes we get it right, sometimes we make mistakes, but we ALWAYS leave some parties out and that's just the unfortunate way it is. Please don't take it personally. Cheer for these guys even if you got passed over. They are putting their hearts, souls, time, and life savings into making motorcycling better.
 
ohio said:
They're being high profile about the high profile ones and low profile about the low profile ones. If you were a beta tester, do you want your name and address blasted publicly and moto-journalists showing up unannounced at your door to interview you?

I get that folks are upset they haven't had access to this yet, either to try on or to beta test - there just aren't that many prototypes in the world. I also know the founders and the company, and like us, every single day is an exercise in prioritization in the absence of good information. That is startup life. We do never, and will never, have the resources to do everything perfectly and by the book, so we make an uninformed but educated best guess about the best use of our very limited time and resources. Sometimes we get it right, sometimes we make mistakes, but we ALWAYS leave some parties out and that's just the unfortunate way it is. Please don't take it personally. Cheer for these guys even if you got passed over. They are putting their hearts, souls, time, and life savings into making motorcycling better.
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I thought te whole point of their beta testers was to be social media stars. Likes and twats and stuff. I know I'm social media challenged but when I go looking for information it's radio silence. I don't need to know where people live and shit, I'd just like to see how the helmets are performing, good or bad, and as far as I can tell, that information is not available. And like I said, I was under the impression that this was the point of their media campaign.
 
Stop being reasonable. NO ONE ON BARF IS A BETA TESTER!!! THIS IS CLEARLY EITHER A CONSPIRACY OR THE COMPANY IS FULL OF SHIT!

I can't even conceptualize how much it cost to develop prototypes of a a piece of gear like this. There are probably not that many of them. And someone on BARF doesn't have one? You applied and didn't hear back? There are probably a metric fuck ton of people that wanted to try one of these out and get in on the ground floor. Becoming a beta tester was probably like winning the lottery. How many lottery winners do you know? The fact that one person on BARF knows someone (who is not a high profile name in the MC industry) that got chosen to be a beta tester seems pretty good to me.

I'll reserve judgement until this makes it market. And then it'll probably be another few years after that before it gets anywhere to the point that I can afford one.

ohio said:
They're being high profile about the high profile ones and low profile about the low profile ones. If you were a beta tester, do you want your name and address blasted publicly and moto-journalists showing up unannounced at your door to interview you?

I get that folks are upset they haven't had access to this yet, either to try on or to beta test - there just aren't that many prototypes in the world. I also know the founders and the company, and like us, every single day is an exercise in prioritization in the absence of good information. That is startup life. We do never, and will never, have the resources to do everything perfectly and by the book, so we make an uninformed but educated best guess about the best use of our very limited time and resources. Sometimes we get it right, sometimes we make mistakes, but we ALWAYS leave some parties out and that's just the unfortunate way it is. Please don't take it personally. Cheer for these guys even if you got passed over. They are putting their hearts, souls, time, and life savings into making motorcycling better.
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Caution: Snarky comments designed to poke fun at a company's attempt to gain product approval before delivering a finished, tested product.

Found this in my email addressed to me, personally:

You spoke, and we're listening.

Many of you have asked us to share the time of launch to ensure you get your helmet before quantities run out.

Here are the details: Monday pre-orders will launch at 9:00AM EST / 6:00AM PST. We have stress tested our servers and they should be able to handle the traffic. We will email you early Monday morning to announce pricing and to ensure you get in before the rest of the world. We are accepting all major credit cards and PayPal payments for your convenience.

Date: Pre-orders begin at 9:00AM EST / 6:00AM PST on Monday, August 11, 2014.
P.S. We have some sweet exclusives prepped for you as a member of the SKULLY nation. We will send you special pricing details when the pre-order campaign launches on Monday morning August 11th. The first 25 early adopters will get a limited time discount, available at launch on our website SKULLYSYSTEMS.COM.

Bonus: You asked for more feedback on people's reactions from the community. Here's what people are saying about their experience with the SKULLY AR-1:
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First off, I didn't say anything to Skully, so I'm not sure what they're talking about. I'm not so sure I want to identify myself as part of a group that considers themselves a marketing & product-based "nation".

Secondly I'm pretty sure the sales aspect of their venture isn't going to stress their servers: It was the "beta tester" rouse that stressed their system. As well, I don't see them running out of helmets anytime soon unless they only made 12 of them.

Of course they're accepting all major credit cards and PayPal, right? Is it really for my convenience? I'll bet it's not. And I'm a little doubtful that a "sweet exclusive" and "special pricing" are going to make any difference in sales. Unless they're including some cool stickers and maybe a free microfiber cloth to wipe the camera lens (2"x2")

And how is more feedback a bonus? I'm a little leery of someone presenting the minimum expected and calling it an extra.

"Thank you for joining us on what will be a wild ride.
Together, we can transform the motorcycle industry."
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Wild ride? Maybe, but not the kind they're envisioning. Transform the motorcycle industry? Not likely. Who's writing this copy anyway, the ShamWow guy?

I'm all for cool innovation and useful gadgets, that's why I bought a Reevu helmet. They didn't have beta testers: They designed, built and extensively tested an innovative product and put that product on the market to sell under it's own merit.

As for the testimonials, it appears that none of the people interviewed actually wore the helmet while riding; they just put it on in a studio at a party. Any beta testers out there actually used the Skully?

Again, if you've drunk the cool-aide, don't get upset with me. I'm just poking a little fun at the roll-out.
 
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Maybe I can hit your point, maybe not.

The helmets have been out for a few weeks now. There have been no real world testimony to their performance that an average joe can find on the interwebs and now they want me to spend a thousand dollars on a prototype 'at a special price' on a half-baked product.

Sounds like a good way to get a whole bunch of bad real world testimony from people who will expect more than is being offered.
 
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