The Official 2012 NFL Thread

[stigeon]

Disagree. Please review Smith's career as a whole. I've bitched for a while that dude is the second coming of Kerry Collins. A guy so good you don't want to cut him but so bad you hate to keep him. That sort of inconsistent play can haunt a team for YEARS, much as Smith has for the Niners and Collins did for the Giants. That's the problem with a dude like that. You can't really build a team around him because you NEVER know what you're really going to get. Maybe Smith is over the hump and will be solid now, but he has had a lot of up and down years that make me think he deserves to be trusted as an all year solid game manager.

agree to disagree. reviewing Smiths career as a whole has it's place when reviewing his career but placing those results with Rollin' with Nolan, Hostler, Simpletary, Raye, etc and saying those results have ANY bearing on his results with Harbaugh and Roman is misleading at best.

I'm not a blind Smith apologist. I realize that Manning is a better QB, even at 75%, than Smith. I believe that Kaep may end up being a better QB than Smith. But I truely believe that Smith is the best QB for the Niners right now. Kaep's inexperience and Manning's injury risk are not worth it when even a 5-10% improvement from Smith will bring a Superbowl win. even more so since i believe that Smith would show closer to 25%-45% improvement. especially now that he's finally got some fucking WR's!

I picture a worse INT ratio but significantly better 3rd down and Red Zone TD ratios. I also think a lot of what happens at QB for the Niners will be predicated on how well the oline does and how they resolve the issue at RG and backup roles. no stats but i feel like Smith had 2.1 seconds (exaggeration? maybe, maybe not) or less on almost every snap last season. when he did have 3-4 seconds he seemed way more successful. i don't think Manning, or any QB, can succeed with that little time to throw.

 

[Marlowe]

You sure 5-10% is all that's needed?

5-10% might get you through an NFC championship, but against the best of the AFC?

 

[stigeon]

uh, is there any doubt the Niners would have smoke the Pats this year? the team i feared the most in the SB was BAL.

 

[Wormwood]

The Niners owe Alex dick and the players will not say it but most would not blink twice nor shed a tear when he leaves. Let him shop, let him leave. The team will be better off.

The media hype is laughable. The best yet is "how can the players ever trust Harbaugh again?" What a crock of crap. Alex does not fit the talent pool that team and its management have developed.

GO RAIDERS.

 

[Marlowe]

uh, is there any doubt the Niners would have smoke the Pats this year? the team i feared the most in the SB was BAL.

Never underestimate the power of the dark side.

 

[elbacalao]

you ninerhaters need to realize that the stupid incompetent years of niner mismanagement are over, they have a plan they know their sit. you haters had a nice little run, but it's over.

We shall see!

 

[stigeon]

The Niners owe Alex dick and the players will not say it but most would not blink twice nor shed a tear when he leaves. Let him shop, let him leave. The team will be better off.

The media hype is laughable. The best yet is "how can the players ever trust Harbaugh again?" What a crock of crap. Alex does not fit the talent pool that team and its management have developed.

GO RAIDERS.

mildly agree one the first point.

100% agree on the second.

 

[Marlowe]

The Niners owe Alex dick and the players will not say it but most would not blink twice nor shed a tear when he leaves. Let him shop, let him leave. The team will be better off.

The media hype is laughable. The best yet is "how can the players ever trust Harbaugh again?" What a crock of crap. Alex does not fit the talent pool that team and its management have developed.

GO RAIDERS.

mildly agree one the first point.

100% agree on the second.

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[Eldritch]

You sure 5-10% is all that's needed?

5-10% might get you through an NFC championship, but against the best of the AFC?

Either team that was in the NFC Championship game would have smoked either team that was in the AFC Championship game last year. It is only the candy-ass AFC after all.

 

[Bowling4Bikes]

Either team that was in the NFC Championship game would have smoked either team that was in the AFC Championship game last year. It is only the candy-ass AFC after all.

O no u dint!

And once they have a non-candyass team, they'll make you eat those words :fistshake

 

[Marlowe]

Either team that was in the NFC Championship game would have smoked either team that was in the AFC Championship game last year. It is only the candy-ass AFC after all.

Sorry, but being 10% better than the best in the NFC, is, well, jack and shit when we're talking about Real Football. (tm).

Candy-ass Brady and the Pats don't count here.

 

[Eldritch]

Sorry, but being 10% better than the best in the NFC, is, well, jack and shit when we're talking about Real Football. (tm).

Candy-ass Brady and the Pats don't count here.

Look, if the NFC hadn't been so kind as to give the AFC the Steelers in order to lend them some credibility, outside of those aforementioned Pats and a run of the Raiders from before most BARFers were born, the AFC would have about as much of a whiff of a team of historic winners as that OTHER team from Pennsylvania has Superbowls. Speaking of which, the Superbowl is still the NFC's game by a decent margin.

O no u dint!

And once they have a non-candyass team, they'll make you eat those words :fistshake

The 2000 Ravens were NOT candy-ass and very uncharacteristically tough football minded. That's really the only one I can think of.

 

[Marlowe]

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[m_asim]

You know what Manning is just a felony away from being a Raider!

- Player on the downhill slope - check
- Rejected by the team he spent most of his career with - check
- Felony - possibility

All he has to do is lash out at one of the stupid "journalists" following him around and voila he will be in Oaklamd

 

[Eldritch]

You know what Manning is just a felony away from being a Raider!

- Player on the downhill slope - check
- Rejected by the team he spent most of his career with - check
- Felony - possibility

All he has to do is lash out at one of the stupid "journalists" following him around and voila he will be in Oaklamd

Nah, no way. He's heavily involved in charitable ventures and makes selfless unannounced visits to children's hospitals without any press or other sort of recognition. He just doesn't have enough felony in him to be a Raider.

 

[bluenoser]

Matty Flynn to the Hawks arty We picked up a DE/DT in Jason Jones, and now have something going at QB. That means we can draft a little more freely for any position.

Looks like Alex is seriously looking for other suitors. It would be funny if SF is left without both Alex and Peyton.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...th-met-dolphins-visit-seahawks-195217782.html

A.Smith is the kind of under-performing player that Schneider and Carroll are looking for. Except for the whole "wanting more money" part. And having to have Smith compete for the starting job.

In reality I think Smith may have gotten a wee tad screwed over by Condon (his agent, who is also Peyton Manning's agent). At least that's the impression that I get.

says if 49ers lose Smith and don't get Manning they will go for Tebow

They already have their Tebow. And as El Dirty pointed out, it's Kaepernick.

 

[Climber]

One thing that might weigh heavily against Manning from coming here....he's from the deep south and may not want to have all of his friends give him a hard time for playing for the 49ers for the rest of his life. Just something to consider.

 

[Marlowe]

One thing that might weigh heavily against Manning from coming here....he's from the deep south and may not want to have all of his friends give him a hard time for playing for the 49ers for the rest of his life. Just something to consider.

Dude's unemployed.

 

[mikev]

Peyton's supposedly going to Denver

 

[Bowling4Bikes]

well damn. didn't really want to root against Peyton. but since he's a stinking Browncow now...well, I just can't wait for Seymour to re-introduce himself!