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The Official 2016/2017 NFL Thread

someone tell me the pixels are too big and this is a shop job lol.

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Tell me what I'm supposed to be looking at? Is that the short pass where the receiver was fully in the end zone when he caught it and then got driven out passed the goal line? If it is then nothing to see there.

On a forward looking note: 9ers reset entire strength and conditioning staff. Makes me wonder if the 21st century of BALCO will be opened up somewhere along the Great America parkway. :teeth

I used to work next door to BALCO in the mid-90s. Would see players representing all the BA teams dropping by for some 'treatment'. Barry Bonds was a regular along with the usual NFL guys.
 
knees down ball is not across the goal line...

i would assume this is the OT game winner TD if not then ????
 
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It's got to be a shop job. A different angle shows his knee clearly off the ground when the ball crosses the plane. Looks even better in realtime/slowmo. It's a TD.
Start at 10:30

P.S. I thought the thread was suppose to keep going until after the draft?

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ah yeah. legit.

anyways, this thready usually goes until the draft to talk offseason crap and then the draft kicks off the new season thread
 
Looks like the new coach and GM are giving good feels to the local media. So far so good. Now if someone wouldn't mind taking a cleaver to Kwakamaimi's hands and welding a ball gag into his mouth I think I might be able to enjoy the coming draft, season, and BA sports in general.
 
Bowling4Bikes said:
and Eli sucks.

so there's that
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Two time Superbowl MVP, which makes him undefeated in the Superbowl and against what is probably the best franchise in NFL History.

Next year he will more than likely pass/tie Joe Montana for most 4th Quarter comebacks, and the only active QB with more is the guy he beat 2 times in the Superbowl.

Next Season he will more than likely pass John Elway and Warren Moon in passing yards to be the 6th greatest of all time and eventually passing Dan Marino to be top 5 is not an unreasonable expectation.

Next season he will pass Fran Tarkenton to be 6th all time in passing touchdowns.

As a member of one of the greatest QB draft classes in NFL history, he is ahead of Rivers and Raperberger in all these stats, in large part due to a durability that is nearly unprecedented, and if he plays all season next year, he will tie Peyton for #2 behind only the eternal Favre.

And he still has 2-4 years of play left.

Best QB ever? I'm going to lean towards nope, but a future HoF guy and one of the all time greatest? The numbers are without question.

:dunno
 
That's an interesting perspective and brings a question to mind: when will the bar be raised on current/future QB for the relative increase in protective rules they've received over the past 15 or so years?

When I think about QB like Brady et.al. it strikes me that there will be players who exceed even their vaunted stats. So when will the threshold required to be considered for the HoF be raised? (And I agree that Eli is a first ballot inductee simply for the fact that he's a two-time SB winner/MVP).
 
CocoLoco said:
That's an interesting perspective and brings a question to mind: when will the bar be raised on current/future QB for the relative increase in protective rules they've received over the past 15 or so years?

When I think about QB like Brady et.al. it strikes me that there will be players who exceed even their vaunted stats. So when will the threshold required to be considered for the HoF be raised? (And I agree that Eli is a first ballot inductee simply for the fact that he's a two-time SB winner/MVP).
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It is a good question and probably the curve will change as certain stats become more common, but some guys, like Favre, will probably always be untouchable, just because he was in the game SO FUCKING LONG. At the Same time, Fran the Man has been a top 10 guy for almost 40 years and probably won't drop out soon, so there are certain limits.
 
It's pretty impossible to compare between eras. There are just too many rule changes.

Matt Stafford has 2 of the top 10 seasons ever for passing yards, I don't think anybody is arguing he is an all time great.
 
mikev said:
It's pretty impossible to compare between eras. There are just too many rule changes.

Matt Stafford has 2 of the top 10 seasons ever for passing yards, I don't think anybody is arguing he is an all time great.
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No, of course not, but Kaepernick is an utter shitburger of a QB and even he had a few good years. I don't think anyone wants to look at one or two good seasons, but rather accomplishments over the span of a career. Like I said, Fran Tarkenton is a good example of a guy that played in a much more brutal era of football, but has remained in the Top 10 for like 40 years. Similarly, when Montana and Marino played, they were in a different era ,and they will probably stay in the top 10 for some time to come.
 
Even after winning this year I doubt Brady tops Montana.
 
I'm thinking the stat that's going to continue to be the dividing line will be career yardage and it's going to go up to the 40-50k realm: either you're over this threshold or you don't get considered.

Stats for smattering of HoF QB courtesy of Pro-Football Reference:
 

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