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Ferguson Solution

m_asim said:
While Rev. King's followers were marching for Freedom and Jobs,
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You're lying. The lie spread by the corporate media is calling it the "March on Washington" or the "March on Washington for Freedom". The word JOBS was either left out or put at the end by the media which changed the meaning of why Martin Luther King was leading the march.

It was called the "March for Jobs and Freedom" with JOBS at the forefront. It was always JOBS that was the #1 concern during the civil rights movement. It's jobs that give people freedom and its jobs that are are denied to African-Americans.

I didn't hear anyone in Ferguson claim that they were rioting for jobs.
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^^Another lie because it goes without saying when black unemployment is 3 times higher than white unemployment.

How Ferguson happened
Full Article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/08/18/how-ferguson-happened/

Census data: "47 percent of the metro area’s African-American men between ages 16 and 24 are unemployed. The comparable figure for young white men is 16 percent."
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m_asim said:
And guess what the first thing that happens when you riot? Business move out taking the jobs you covet with them.
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^^Another lie.

There's been numerous windows broken in downtown Oakland, but they just replace the windows and people come back to buy their stuff.
 
Dubbington said:
Protesters and many others feel the 70% white jury and white judge are the reason. Would a 100% black jury and black judge have come to the same decision? Don't know. The fact there were any whites involved in this decision allows those to say the system is corrupt and 'white privledge' continues.

No knews coveresge about the 5 year black girl that was shot in the head by a drive by IN ST. LUIS or the white undercover cop shot to death by a black guy in Akron early this month.
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I really don't think we should go down the road of selecting juries because of their race. I welcome diversity, but putting an all black jury to judge a man that shot a black guy, or an all white jury to judge somebody that shot a white guy specifically because of their race will not help to quell racism IMO.

I still have yet to hear from any Ferguson protest supporters about what the jury process should be replaced with to make it better.
 
I have a very intelligent lawyer friend supporting the 4th Amendment and the right to be free from government interference in their person etc. Basically supporting the right to protest and does not like the gov't/guards preventing it. Interesting stance I guess. Just let them go nuts on a town?

I can't read anymore because the majority of the articles are saying that white people, me, can never understand, that we just don't get it. I supposed some of that is correct. So what am I supposed to do? Shutup? Not support a judicial system, a 12 man jury, that decided the evidence presented was not enough to indict?
 
Dubbington said:
I have a very intelligent lawyer friend supporting the 4th Amendment and the right to be free from government interference in their person etc. Basically supporting the right to protest and does not like the gov't/guards preventing it. Interesting stance I guess. Just let them go nuts on a town?

I can't read anymore because the majority of the articles are saying that white people, me, can never understand, that we just don't get it. I supposed some of that is correct. So what am I supposed to do? Shutup? Not support a judicial system, a 12 man jury, that decided the evidence presented was not enough to indict?
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You're equating protest with riot as one in the same.
 
This whole thing is now graduated to complete exploitation. The way the news media describes the grand jury decision is in inflammatory ways. Keeping the unrest alive with all its fictional accounts.
 
Bronto said:
This whole thing is now graduated to complete exploitation. The way the news media describes the grand jury decision is in inflammatory ways. Keeping the unrest alive with all its fictional accounts.
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:applause

MF'ing :applause
 
m_asim said:
Not always.

If you make minimum pay, there aren't a lot of places you can live.

I don't think a single parent living in Bay Area and working minimum pay can rent a single bedroom apartment in Menlo Park/Palo Alto and still have money left to feed and clothe her children.

Heck even in LA, a house even in South Central costs $350k. And it is not even a question of race but of poverty. South Central is now half Mexican and half Black. And there are gangs emerging from both these communities. Heck even some of the illegal aliens are gangbangers. So it is not just a problem limited to Blacks or legal aliens.

What we have is a huge chasm between whites and blacks perception of events. I feel as if they are saying the same thing but talking on two different wavelengths.
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The Bay Area and Menlo Park don't count. They are not representative of the US at all, at least counting the costs of living there .

Again, if so many illegal aliens can come here, live under the radar, and still strive, and get a hold of, the American Dream, how come so many young blacks can't, and living here legally, not on the fringes? How bad do you WANT to succeed? The illegals want it, real bad.
 
Bronto said:
This whole thing is now graduated to complete exploitation. The way the news media describes the grand jury decision is in inflammatory ways. Keeping the unrest alive with all its fictional accounts.
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That's become their job. Help create the news that sells high viewership / readership so they can make more money from their advertisers.
 
Media is all about making news over reporting it. Glad I caught the original broadcasts and live feeds. It was nothing what is reported. Like watching the SF Marina Burn and people back East thought the entire city was on fire.
 
yup.
I had a burger in downtown Oakland this afternoon, and the owner of the joint was You should have seen it down here last night.'
Nobody with a job or anything to do is out smashing shit..
not saying it's not a sticky situation, but yellow journalism is definitely alive, well, and not helping things at all.
 
I was extremely disappointed in Brian Williams saying, "the grand jury failed to indict..."

That is purely inflammatory language.
 
there is no solution at this moment, as the issue is a cultural issue that needs long term addressing

unfortunately we seem to be regressing a lot on this issue. as the change in democgraphics continues, I think racial strife is going to increase in this country
 
kevin 714 said:
there is no solution at this moment, as the issue is a cultural issue that needs long term addressing

unfortunately we seem to be regressing a lot on this issue. as the change in democgraphics continues, I think racial strife is going to increase in this country
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It sells the right shit to those who want to sell things. Mainly votes.
 
Did the prosecutor screw up on this case? I'm reading thats the concensus. Not that there was a lack of evidence. Granted, ex NY Mayor Guliani who was a prosecutor said there's no way with the deferring witness testimonies they would have got beyond a reasonable doubt.
 
I was watching KTVU, and the newscasters started panicking because the protesters were headed to the "up-and-coming" Temescal area.

I was on Telegraph tonight, and it is a shitty street. Maybe if more chaos happened in the good parts of town, the rich people might do more...
 
sanjuro said:
I was watching KTVU, and the newscasters started panicking because the protesters were headed to the "up-and-coming" Temescal area.

I was on Telegraph tonight, and it is a shitty street. Maybe if more chaos happened in the good parts of town, the rich people might do more...
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No, if chaos happened in the good parts of town the protesters would get mowed down in the streets. Rich people wouldn't stand for this nonsense.
 
Dubbington said:
Did the prosecutor screw up on this case? I'm reading thats the concensus. Not that there was a lack of evidence. Granted, ex NY Mayor Guliani who was a prosecutor said there's no way with the deferring witness testimonies they would have got beyond a reasonable doubt.
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The grand jury didn't have to determine he was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. They had to get 9 out of the 12 jurrors to think there was probable cause of a crime being committed. That is a much lower standard than a jury trial where you need to have 12 jurrors unanimously agree beyond a reasonable doubt.

If 75% of a jury can't agree that something likely happened, how are you going to convince 100% of a jury at trial that it was for sure?
 
The targets of last nights over pampered under disciplined children were...

A Mom and Pop Coffee Shop
A small local deli

So you continue to vandalize and loot the heart of the city and you want my support or respect?

Spoiled children. :twofinger
 
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